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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 8 Sep 2009 16:36 On Sep 8, 1:03 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article > <ffde25f2-d72d-4a64-b6c7-9ebe2e623...(a)o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > On Sep 7, 9:24 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > >news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I > > > > > attended college. > > > > > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than > > > > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small > > > > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. > > > > "Rung" huh? Is that how you evaluate people? Their education. > > > > My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. He lays floor tile > > > for a living. He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for years, > > > and blows every dime he makes. Yet....according to you, he's on a higher > > > plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and pays > > > his bills. > > > > BTW....Billy. Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to you? > > > > -Greg > > > I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad > > degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters > > degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced > > degree proved worthless. > > I can only conclude, from his complete lack of understanding of > statistics, that he is a biology graduate from Mississippi College. Business grad from Mississippi College. As a result, he has a very successful business, and unlike say deadwood faculty at major universities, he doesn't sit around and expect people to pay him for simply drawing breath, he actually goes out and earns a living by providing a real service to people...no attributing some theoretical values of education and research onto himself while he does nothing...if he did nothing he would earn nothing! Too bad education and research isn't more like business...we would educate more effectively and discover more! Of course, if he were British, he would be a laborer or something like that. He would not have scored well on aptitude tests when he was a kid and would have never gone to college at all.
From: Bobby Knight on 8 Sep 2009 16:49 On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: <clip> >Business grad from Mississippi College. As a result, he has a very >successful business, and unlike say deadwood faculty at major >universities, he doesn't sit around and expect people to pay him for >simply drawing breath, he actually goes out and earns a living by >providing a real service to people...no attributing some theoretical >values of education and research onto himself while he does >nothing...if he did nothing he would earn nothing! Too bad education >and research isn't more like business...we would educate more >effectively and discover more! > Whoa Rob. You opened a door that you probably didn't realize. "Deadwood faculty at major universities"? Then we should expect you to be aware of deadwood faculty at little colleges, like in Mississippi. Maybe in biology? Are you tenured yet? BK
From: Alan Baker on 8 Sep 2009 16:56 In article <043fcf99-eb46-4942-96a9-19551197c62b(a)s39g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Sep 8, 1:03�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > In article > > <ffde25f2-d72d-4a64-b6c7-9ebe2e623...(a)o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 9:24�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree > > > > > > but, I > > > > > > attended college. > > > > > > > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung > > > > > than > > > > > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and > > > > > small > > > > > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. > > > > > > "Rung" huh? �Is that how you evaluate people? �Their education. > > > > > > My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. �He lays floor > > > > tile > > > > for a living. �He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for > > > > years, > > > > and blows every dime he makes. �Yet....according to you, he's on a > > > > higher > > > > plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and > > > > pays > > > > his bills. > > > > > > BTW....Billy. �Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to > > > > you? > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad > > > degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters > > > degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced > > > degree proved worthless. > > > > I can only conclude, from his complete lack of understanding of > > statistics, that he is a biology graduate from Mississippi College. > > Business grad from Mississippi College. As a result, he has a very > successful business, and unlike say deadwood faculty at major > universities, he doesn't sit around and expect people to pay him for > simply drawing breath, he actually goes out and earns a living by > providing a real service to people...no attributing some theoretical > values of education and research onto himself while he does > nothing...if he did nothing he would earn nothing! Too bad education > and research isn't more like business...we would educate more > effectively and discover more! So you're claiming -- and let's all just take a moment to truly appreciate the idiocy expressed here -- you're claiming that your friend is a valuable person because he runs a successful business which is a result of his getting an education, but then -- in the very same paragraph, no less! -- you denigrate someone who provides education to others as providing no real service. Incredible. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on 8 Sep 2009 17:53 On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:29:06 -0700, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4aa5f973$0$23958$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:00:24 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: >> > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:01:49 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> >> > wrote: >> >>On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:03:59 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> >> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>>This is incorrect. Millions in the US don't have health insurance. >> >>>Everyone in the US has access to health care. >> >> >> >>And we pay through the nose when the uninsured get treated. But >> >>some people would rather pay more, as long as they can avert their >> >>eyes from the fact that the wrong people are getting help. >> > >> > No doubt that the cost of treating the uninsured is passed on to the >> > rest of us one way or the other. >> >> Which (obviously) is why it's cheaper to just give everyone health >> insurance and be done with it. > > "Give?" Everyone pays in with payroll deductions, everyone benefits. Those who can't pay in have it provided. It's way cheaper that way.
From: William Clark on 8 Sep 2009 18:02
In article <alangbaker-2553F0.13563908092009(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <043fcf99-eb46-4942-96a9-19551197c62b(a)s39g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > > > On Sep 8, 1:03�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > state.edu> wrote: > > > In article > > > <ffde25f2-d72d-4a64-b6c7-9ebe2e623...(a)o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > On Sep 7, 9:24�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > >news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > > > > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree > > > > > > > but, I > > > > > > > attended college. > > > > > > > > > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung > > > > > > than > > > > > > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and > > > > > > small > > > > > > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. > > > > > > > > "Rung" huh? �Is that how you evaluate people? �Their education. > > > > > > > > My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. �He lays > > > > > floor > > > > > tile > > > > > for a living. �He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for > > > > > years, > > > > > and blows every dime he makes. �Yet....according to you, he's on a > > > > > higher > > > > > plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and > > > > > pays > > > > > his bills. > > > > > > > > BTW....Billy. �Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad > > > > degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters > > > > degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced > > > > degree proved worthless. > > > > > > I can only conclude, from his complete lack of understanding of > > > statistics, that he is a biology graduate from Mississippi College. > > > > Business grad from Mississippi College. As a result, he has a very > > successful business, and unlike say deadwood faculty at major > > universities, he doesn't sit around and expect people to pay him for > > simply drawing breath, he actually goes out and earns a living by > > providing a real service to people...no attributing some theoretical > > values of education and research onto himself while he does > > nothing...if he did nothing he would earn nothing! Too bad education > > and research isn't more like business...we would educate more > > effectively and discover more! > > So you're claiming -- and let's all just take a moment to truly > appreciate the idiocy expressed here -- you're claiming that your friend > is a valuable person because he runs a successful business which is a > result of his getting an education, but then -- in the very same > paragraph, no less! -- you denigrate someone who provides education to > others as providing no real service. > > Incredible. Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on his shoulder. |