From: Bobby Knight on
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:25:09 -0500, "The moderator"
<no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

>
>"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>news:lloydparsons-F22CD7.16200203092009(a)port80.individual.net...
>> In article <ie70a5pvpas9jeliqc5k3frbqpitoob991(a)4ax.com>,
>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
>>> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Death Panel thing is a good one to work on though, because anyone
>>> >who says they aren't going to be part of the system is lying.
>>>
>>> Palin's remark was so on target that the "end of life counseling"
>>> provision was removed from the legislation. That's a pretty good
>>> indication that she struck a nerve.
>>
>> And that is because she did what she always does, sensationalize
>> something that wasn't a bad thing at all.
>>
>> You get that a lot from the truly stupid people of this world.
>
>What would you call a mandatory consultation to advise patients of
>government approved end of life options?
>
What it is. A twisted view from an idiot. Government approved isn't
government mandated. Does the word "consultation" have meaning to
you?

Read this and try to comprehend,

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090903/OPINION/909030309/Valley-Views---Death-panel--myth-muddies-debate

BK
From: The moderator on

"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wclark2-2CF391.08200104092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <bbMnm.128956$sC1.50048(a)newsfe17.iad>,
> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>> news:ar7u95tu73u6hegjods8csud55cd581hg1(a)4ax.com...
>> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
>> > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Death Panel thing is a good one to work on though, because anyone
>> >>who says they aren't going to be part of the system is lying. They
>> >>have to be there; someone has to allocate resources; you can't just
>> >>give everyone top quality care; we can't afford it, and we all know
>> >>it.
>> >
>> > Current insurance companies allocate which public care they are
>> > willing to pay for with the very old. The "Death Panel" that the
>> > Republicans jumped on is about counseling, more in the way of adding
>> > psychological care than anything else. Sure it is a Liberal thing
>> > (not to mention more money to be spent), but it has nothing to do with
>> > allocating care.
>> >
>> > --
>> > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
>> > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
>> > to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>> >
>> > - James Madison
>>
>> My information is that the counseling on end of
>> life issues is gone from the proposal and that it
>> was offered by a Republican in the first place.
>> Please correct me, if that is not the case.
>
> Please note the deafening silence.

My information is that is was authored by Earl Blumenauer, Democrat from
Oregon.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33198


From: Bobby Knight on
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:20:15 -0500, "The moderator"
<no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

>
>"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> allocating care.

>>> My information is that the counseling on end of
>>> life issues is gone from the proposal and that it
>>> was offered by a Republican in the first place.
>>> Please correct me, if that is not the case.
>>
>> Please note the deafening silence.
>
>My information is that is was authored by Earl Blumenauer, Democrat from
>Oregon.
>
>http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33198
>
Does all of your information come from ultra-right wingnut web sites
and periodicals?

Silly question.

BK
From: gray asphalt on

"The moderator" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message
news:4aa11411$0$23757$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net...
>
> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-2CF391.08200104092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> In article <bbMnm.128956$sC1.50048(a)newsfe17.iad>,
>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ar7u95tu73u6hegjods8csud55cd581hg1(a)4ax.com...
>>> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
>>> > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The Death Panel thing is a good one to work on though, because anyone
>>> >>who says they aren't going to be part of the system is lying. They
>>> >>have to be there; someone has to allocate resources; you can't just
>>> >>give everyone top quality care; we can't afford it, and we all know
>>> >>it.
>>> >
>>> > Current insurance companies allocate which public care they are
>>> > willing to pay for with the very old. The "Death Panel" that the
>>> > Republicans jumped on is about counseling, more in the way of adding
>>> > psychological care than anything else. Sure it is a Liberal thing
>>> > (not to mention more money to be spent), but it has nothing to do with
>>> > allocating care.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
>>> > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
>>> > to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>>> >
>>> > - James Madison
>>>
>>> My information is that the counseling on end of
>>> life issues is gone from the proposal and that it
>>> was offered by a Republican in the first place.
>>> Please correct me, if that is not the case.
>>
>> Please note the deafening silence.
>
> My information is that is was authored by Earl Blumenauer, Democrat from
> Oregon.
>
> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33198

Thanks, I will look into it too.


From: Frank Ketchum on

"Bobby Knight" <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
news:5gb2a55chg0268g5ui3p9fk2r711t9vvr8(a)4ax.com...
> Boy Frank. You're really awake today. Out of the public's eye? Are
> you living in a vacuum? She's such a joke that anything she's said in
> the last year makes news.

She is perceived by the left wing as so dangerous that anything she says
makes news. The left went into hyperdrive to destroy her when she was added
to McCain's ticket. I personally don't understand what they see in her that
is so threatening.


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