From: William Clark on
In article <4LGdnQusqJFTyzXXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:

> William Clark wrote:
> > In article <l5uca5d39v9sqb069e2dkooaruvri6es2i(a)4ax.com>,
> > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 08 Sep 2009 06:30:26 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a
> >>>> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he
> >>>> hasn't released them.
> >>> For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to
> >>> those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards.
> >> Actually he did release his birth certificate.
> >
> > It is in the public records. He didn't have to "release" anything.
>
> He did not release a copy of his original birth certificate that was
> issued at the time of his birth. There is a difference.

No there is not. Sorry, but at least I accept that this is all you have.
From: William Clark on
In article
<9a7c191f-1ea8-46fd-9ca1-340f53f8fb85(a)k39g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Sep 8, 5:02�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on his
> > shoulder.
>
> What is truly absurd is your belief that I have some ship on my
> shoulder here. If you have a problem with what just about everyone in
> this business thinks of deadwood faculty...too bad for you.
>
> In any event, I was just reporting what the guy said...if all you can
> do with a masters degree is get a job that pays $60,000, it's not
> really worth the effort. You have a chip on your shoulder on that,
> tough for you!

A "ship" on your shoulder? HMS Clavicle, perhaps? Holy smoke, no wonder
you have a hard time functioning! This sounds like something from "Monty
Python".

But while we are on it, why don't you let us all in on your definition
of "deadwood" faculty"? You seem to like to bandy the term around, so
let's be more specific, please.

over to you.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Sep 9, 7:17 am, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
wrote:
> In article <w5edncU81pgSaTvXnZ2dnUVZ_vCdn...(a)giganews.com>,
>
>
>
>  BAR <Sc...(a)You.Com> wrote:
> > William Clark wrote:
> > > In article <avWdnRXtA44cqTvXnZ2dnUVZ_oidn...(a)giganews.com>,
> > >  BAR <Sc...(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
> > >> William Clark wrote:
> > >>> In article <1LCdnfuIP_N85TjXnZ2dnUVZ_jOdn...(a)giganews.com>,
> > >>>  BAR <Sc...(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> William Clark wrote:
> > >>>>> In article <2t-dnd7SI-IajDjXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4...(a)giganews.com>,
> > >>>>>  BAR <Sc...(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> William Clark wrote:
> > >>>>>>> In article <7gj3dgF2pmaj...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > >>>>>>>  "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>news:4aa4523f$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:24:04 -0700, dene wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>news:4aa44eac$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0700, dene wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>news:4aa3e396$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:32:46 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 14:43:39 GMT, Carbon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:18:28 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 02:38:47 GMT, Carbon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Canada if you're sick and you need expensive care, you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, period.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canadians get it all right, but not the way they think..
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada's health care rationing kills.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spare me the bullshit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Canadian Supreme Court decision July, 2005.
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Delays in the public system are widespread and have serious,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes grave, consequences," wrote Chief Justice Beverley
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> McLachlin and Justice John Major. "Inevitably where patients
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have life-threatening conditions, some will die because of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> undue
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay in awaiting surgery."
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume that this decision came after a long trial with many
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert witnesses followed by a period of deliberation.  Now if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the greatest legal minds in Canada say that the Canadian
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> care system results in people unnecessarily dying, then who am
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I, or you for that matter, to disagree.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess things didn't work out on rec.sport.soccer, huh?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Nice diversion, Carbs, but why don't you address Jack's cite.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have addressed Jack's bullshit ad nauseum in the past. Done
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Then don't criticize what he says.
> > >>>>>>>>> Why the hell not? He's already worn this newsgroup out. There are
> > >>>>>>>>> plenty
> > >>>>>>>>> more.
> > >>>>>>>> I don't care about other newsgroups.  If you want to refute Hollis's
> > >>>>>>>> views
> > >>>>>>>> and cites, counter them with your own cites, or perhaps ignore him
> > >>>>>>>> completely.  Trying to toss him from this NG is low class.  You are
> > >>>>>>>> better
> > >>>>>>>> than that.
>
> > >>>>>>>> -Greg
> > >>>>>>> Why don't you ask him about his experience as a "student" at
> > >>>>>>> Columbia?
> > >>>>>>> See if that is consistent with his other BS.
> > >>>>>> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all
> > >>>>>> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was
> > >>>>>> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from
> > >>>>>> Columbia will provide the proof.
> > >>>>> Of course you are sure. Your vast experience of the US university
> > >>>>> system
> > >>>>> tells you that, doesn't it? Or do you just have a huge chip on your
> > >>>>> shoulder because Obama go to go to Columbia (unlike Hollis) and
> > >>>>> Harvard,
> > >>>>> and you never got to college?
> > >>>> "becasue Obama go to go to Columbia" what the hell does this mean?
> > >>>> Doesn't it suck when the apple bites back.
> > >>> It means because Obama got to go to Columbia, and you didn't. Or
> > >>> anywhere else.
> > >> That must be a special form of the Queen's English.
>
> > > Well, it is no surprise that it is beyond your comprehension skills.
> > >>>> You still didn't address the issue of Obama's undergraduate performance
> > >>>> at Columbia. All evidence points to Obama getting into Harvard due to
> > >>>> who he knew and not what he knew.
> > >>> "All evidence"? Then I am sure you can produce a cite to "all evidence",
> > >>> can't you? I look forward to seeing this "evidence", which seems to me
> > >>> to amount to nothing more than the fact that Obama is black, and
> > >>> therefore in your mind cannot possibly have the intellectual make up to
> > >>> get into an Ivy League school. Or is this the second coming of the
> > >>> birthers?
> > >> Obama is 1/2 black and 1/2 white.
>
> > > Obama is African-American. Get used to it.
>
> > Then I am European-American.
>
> > >>>> Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I
> > >>>> attended college.
> > >>> "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than
> > >>> Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small
> > >>> universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow.
> > >> Me and Bill Gates.
>
> > > Really.
>
> > Neither of us finished college.
>
> But Bill Gates got into Harvard to begin with.
>
> You?

The worst thing is to have had society waste a lot of money educating
and employing you and you have virtually nothing of note to show in
return. A Harvard education might make you qualified to run AIG, but
that doesn't mean you are competent...if it did, AIG wouldn't have
melted down. Of course a person like you doesn't understand this...but
"learning" what other people have learned is of little value in and of
itself...learning to deal with things no one else has seen...that's
what it's all about in the end, especially for top performers like
Bill Gates.

Operating some piece of equipment is one thing...any dufus
can...inventing a piece of equipment that works well for all of
us...only people who are meaningful do that.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...(a)mac.com> wrote:

>
> Yet for all that, they provide the care for less in overhead cost than
> do the insurance companies.
>

On what do you base that? All I see is govt squeezing primary care
providers. I see no reduction in overhead..just reduction in
allocation to the actual service.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Sep 14, 3:38 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <9a7c191f-1ea8-46fd-9ca1-340f53f8f...(a)k39g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on his
> > > shoulder.
>
> > What is truly absurd is your belief that I have some ship on my
> > shoulder here. If you have a problem with what just about everyone in
> > this business thinks of deadwood faculty...too bad for you.
>
> > In any event, I was just reporting what the guy said...if all you can
> > do with a masters degree is get a job that pays $60,000, it's not
> > really worth the effort. You have a chip on your shoulder on that,
> > tough for you!
>
> A "ship" on your shoulder? HMS Clavicle, perhaps? Holy smoke, no wonder
> you have a hard time functioning! This sounds like something from "Monty
> Python".
>
> But while we are on it, why don't you let us all in on your definition
> of "deadwood" faculty"? You seem to like to bandy the term around, so
> let's be more specific, please.
>
> over to you.

We all know what this is. Some loser who got tenure and thinks (s)he
has a guaranteed job, so they do basically nothing but the minimal
work. No grants or contracts of their own, and they expect to teach
some minimal number of hours. They produce nothing or next to nothing.
Often have had their lab space reduced or eliminated. They should be
fired for violating their contracts, as they are in violation by not
producing an acceptable level of research as required by those
contracts, but for some reason they are not. State universities are
loaded with them, as you know. There's a place you could save a lot of
money. Lots of very active very hungry young academics out there with
grants and contracts ready to take those jobs for 1/2 the salary, but
nope!