From: Carbon on
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:28:43 -0400, William Clark wrote:
> In article <z7mdnQpwaqH4bjvXnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, BAR
> <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
>> I do believe that Obama's undergraduate grades are not as good as
>> Bush's. I do not believe that the WH will ever release them. But, a
>> disgruntled Columbia clerk may.
>
> Of course you do. You have to, because he is a black liberal Democrat,
> who is President of the US. He could not, therefore, possibly have
> reached that office on his own ability - only Republicans do that. All
> others must, by definition, be cheats and scoundrels. Childish, but
> there it is.

What's so funny is Wubya has legacy admission written all over him. His
grandfather, the Nazi collaborator Prescott Bush, was once Chancellor of
Yale. As you know, legacy admissions have historically outnumbered
affirmative action admissions to Ivy League schools.
From: Carbon on
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:32:26 -0400, William Clark wrote:
> In article <qgsda59thh0t9c1nct8341gbc57bpsf97n(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis
> <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> The major problem with US health care is the cost. It's similar to
>> Cuban cigars. They're the best, no doubt about that, but are they
>> really worth 3 or 4 times as much as a top quality Dominican?
>
> Actually the Cuban cigars are a good analogy to US health care. Cuban
> cigars are the best, but they are kept unavailable to US citizens for
> no good reason by a special interest group that wants the market for
> itself. Just like insurance companies do for the public option in US
> health care.

An excellent analogy. The corporations which own the US healthcare
system obviously want to keep prices as high as possible while
minimizing expenditures. Prices are inflated to absurd levels, claims
are denied whenever possible. A lot of money gets spread around for
astroturf campaigns and the like. Large numbers of people will
uncritically accept whatever they are told, so maybe big healthcare will
get away with it again. Who knows?
From: BAR on
William Clark wrote:
> In article <w5edncU81pgSaTvXnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
>> William Clark wrote:
>>> In article <avWdnRXtA44cqTvXnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
>>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>>> In article <1LCdnfuIP_N85TjXnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
>>>>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <2t-dnd7SI-IajDjXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d(a)giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <7gj3dgF2pmajpU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4aa4523f$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:24:04 -0700, dene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4aa44eac$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0700, dene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4aa3e396$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:32:46 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 14:43:39 GMT, Carbon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:18:28 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 02:38:47 GMT, Carbon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Canada if you're sick and you need expensive care, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, period.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canadians get it all right, but not the way they think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada's health care rationing kills.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spare me the bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Canadian Supreme Court decision July, 2005.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Delays in the public system are widespread and have serious,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes grave, consequences," wrote Chief Justice Beverley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McLachlin and Justice John Major. "Inevitably where patients
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have life-threatening conditions, some will die because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay in awaiting surgery."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume that this decision came after a long trial with many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert witnesses followed by a period of deliberation. Now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the greatest legal minds in Canada say that the Canadian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care system results in people unnecessarily dying, then who am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I, or you for that matter, to disagree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess things didn't work out on rec.sport.soccer, huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice diversion, Carbs, but why don't you address Jack's cite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have addressed Jack's bullshit ad nauseum in the past. Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then don't criticize what he says.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why the hell not? He's already worn this newsgroup out. There are
>>>>>>>>>>> plenty
>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't care about other newsgroups. If you want to refute Hollis's
>>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>>> and cites, counter them with your own cites, or perhaps ignore him
>>>>>>>>>> completely. Trying to toss him from this NG is low class. You are
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> than that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Greg
>>>>>>>>> Why don't you ask him about his experience as a "student" at
>>>>>>>>> Columbia?
>>>>>>>>> See if that is consistent with his other BS.
>>>>>>>> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all
>>>>>>>> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was
>>>>>>>> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from
>>>>>>>> Columbia will provide the proof.
>>>>>>> Of course you are sure. Your vast experience of the US university
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> tells you that, doesn't it? Or do you just have a huge chip on your
>>>>>>> shoulder because Obama go to go to Columbia (unlike Hollis) and
>>>>>>> Harvard,
>>>>>>> and you never got to college?
>>>>>> "becasue Obama go to go to Columbia" what the hell does this mean?
>>>>>> Doesn't it suck when the apple bites back.
>>>>> It means because Obama got to go to Columbia, and you didn't. Or
>>>>> anywhere else.
>>>> That must be a special form of the Queen's English.
>>> Well, it is no surprise that it is beyond your comprehension skills.
>>>>>> You still didn't address the issue of Obama's undergraduate performance
>>>>>> at Columbia. All evidence points to Obama getting into Harvard due to
>>>>>> who he knew and not what he knew.
>>>>> "All evidence"? Then I am sure you can produce a cite to "all evidence",
>>>>> can't you? I look forward to seeing this "evidence", which seems to me
>>>>> to amount to nothing more than the fact that Obama is black, and
>>>>> therefore in your mind cannot possibly have the intellectual make up to
>>>>> get into an Ivy League school. Or is this the second coming of the
>>>>> birthers?
>>>> Obama is 1/2 black and 1/2 white.
>>> Obama is African-American. Get used to it.
>> Then I am European-American.
>>
>>>>>> Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I
>>>>>> attended college.
>>>>> "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than
>>>>> Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small
>>>>> universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow.
>>>> Me and Bill Gates.
>>> Really.
>> Neither of us finished college.
>
> But Bill Gates got into Harvard to begin with.
>
> You?

You never know do you?
From: BAR on
William Clark wrote:
> In article <4LGdnQusqJFTyzXXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>
>> William Clark wrote:
>>> In article <l5uca5d39v9sqb069e2dkooaruvri6es2i(a)4ax.com>,
>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08 Sep 2009 06:30:26 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a
>>>>>> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he
>>>>>> hasn't released them.
>>>>> For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to
>>>>> those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards.
>>>> Actually he did release his birth certificate.
>>> It is in the public records. He didn't have to "release" anything.
>> He did not release a copy of his original birth certificate that was
>> issued at the time of his birth. There is a difference.
>
> No there is not. Sorry, but at least I accept that this is all you have.

Yes, there is a difference in the types of birth certificates that were
provided in 1961 and the ones provided now. I have more familiarity with
birth certificates issued in 1961 than you.
From: MNMikeW on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4aaece25$0$23971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:32:26 -0400, William Clark wrote:
>> In article <qgsda59thh0t9c1nct8341gbc57bpsf97n(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis
>> <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The major problem with US health care is the cost. It's similar to
>>> Cuban cigars. They're the best, no doubt about that, but are they
>>> really worth 3 or 4 times as much as a top quality Dominican?
>>
>> Actually the Cuban cigars are a good analogy to US health care. Cuban
>> cigars are the best, but they are kept unavailable to US citizens for
>> no good reason by a special interest group that wants the market for
>> itself. Just like insurance companies do for the public option in US
>> health care.
>
> An excellent analogy. The corporations which own the US healthcare
> system obviously want to keep prices as high as possible while
> minimizing expenditures. Prices are inflated to absurd levels, claims
> are denied whenever possible. A lot of money gets spread around for
> astroturf campaigns and the like. Large numbers of people will
> uncritically accept whatever they are told, so maybe big healthcare will
> get away with it again. Who knows?

"Large numbers of people will uncritically accept whatever they are told,"

LOL!