From: BAR on
Carbon wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:18:44 -0400, BAR wrote:
>> I don't think you want to go down the articulate path. Obama doesn't
>> go anywhere without his Tele-Prompter. When Obama speaks
>> extemporaneously he sounds like an idiot and makes GWB's verbal
>> miscues appear like normal stutters.
> Where are you true believers getting this garbage from anyway?

We are getting it from Obama himself.

From: Howard Brazee on
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:57:37 -0700, "gray asphalt"
<dontwrite(a)> wrote:

>Capitalism to a large extent is based on lies
>through advertising.

Capitalism is about financing the companies. Selling BS to us is
much more widespread than those companies.

"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: William Clark on
In article
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)> wrote:

> On Sep 14, 3:38�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>> wrote:
> > In article
> > <9a7c191f-1ea8-46fd-9ca1-340f53f8f...(a)>,
> >
> >
> >
> > �Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)> wrote:
> > > On Sep 8, 5:02�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on his
> > > > shoulder.
> >
> > > What is truly absurd is your belief that I have some ship on my
> > > shoulder here. If you have a problem with what just about everyone in
> > > this business thinks of deadwood faculty...too bad for you.
> >
> > > In any event, I was just reporting what the guy said...if all you can
> > > do with a masters degree is get a job that pays $60,000, it's not
> > > really worth the effort. You have a chip on your shoulder on that,
> > > tough for you!
> >
> > A "ship" on your shoulder? HMS Clavicle, perhaps? Holy smoke, no wonder
> > you have a hard time functioning! This sounds like something from "Monty
> > Python".
> >
> > But while we are on it, why don't you let us all in on your definition
> > of "deadwood" faculty"? You seem to like to bandy the term around, so
> > let's be more specific, please.
> >
> > over to you.
> We all know what this is. Some loser who got tenure and thinks (s)he
> has a guaranteed job, so they do basically nothing but the minimal
> work. No grants or contracts of their own, and they expect to teach
> some minimal number of hours. They produce nothing or next to nothing.
> Often have had their lab space reduced or eliminated. They should be
> fired for violating their contracts, as they are in violation by not
> producing an acceptable level of research as required by those
> contracts, but for some reason they are not. State universities are
> loaded with them, as you know. There's a place you could save a lot of
> money. Lots of very active very hungry young academics out there with
> grants and contracts ready to take those jobs for 1/2 the salary, but
> nope!

Actually, I don't know that "state universities are loaded with them",
at least, not here. Perhaps you have a list of such faculty at Ohio
State that you would care to share with us?
From: William Clark on
In article <W7GdncK-dquilTLXnZ2dnUVZ_oli4p2d(a)>,
BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:

> William Clark wrote:
> > In article <iaona5d4p8hao3iakooafi8q28thul8uvg(a)>,
> > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:14:10 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons(a)> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <ijpla5lo3hhrobi9mjhuf2f1jlg7p8bsr9(a)>,
> >>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Wrong. Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate that was
> >>>>> issued at the time of his birth. McCain and Palin lost the election and
> >>>>> are not the President or Vice-President.
> >>>> I'm not sure how it became public but records of the evaluation McCain
> >>>> received after his release from the POW camp are known. His score, a
> >>>> very superior 133. Not quite Mensa material, but close.
> >>> I don't remember anyone saying that McCain was stupid. Old and senile
> >>> possibly?? :)
> >>
> >> If you stay active in your old age you can still cogitate quite well.
> >> BTW, JFK took a Otis IQ test as part of his high school admission and
> >> scored a rather modest 119.
> >>
> >> I guess the question is do you really have to be very smart to be a
> >> good President? Although I've never been able to find any objective
> >> measures, Jimmy Carter is reported to be very smart. He was training
> >> to be nuclear engineering officer when he left the Navy. For the most
> >> part, nuclear engineers are pretty smart. Smart or not, Carter wasn't
> >> a very successful President. However, I have to admit that he had a
> >> lot of bad luck as well.
> >
> > Gosh, Jack, tell us how smart you have to be to get into "Columbia", why
> > don't you? We are waiting.
> Obama, the dope smoking cocaine addict (read his book), was able to get
> in and stay in and graduate so it couldn't have been too difficult.

But obviously too difficult for you to stay in anywhere and finish a

A little resentful, are we?
From: William Clark on
In article <GfWdnaKYdMNymDLXnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d(a)>,
BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:

> William Clark wrote:
> > In article <G9GdndNa2dCdSjPXnZ2dnUVZ_gJi4p2d(a)>,
> > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
> >
> >> William Clark wrote:
> >>> In article <4LGdnQusqJFTyzXXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)>,
> >>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> William Clark wrote:
> >>>>> In article <l5uca5d39v9sqb069e2dkooaruvri6es2i(a)>,
> >>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08 Sep 2009 06:30:26 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a
> >>>>>>>> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he
> >>>>>>>> hasn't released them.
> >>>>>>> For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to
> >>>>>>> those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards.
> >>>>>> Actually he did release his birth certificate.
> >>>>> It is in the public records. He didn't have to "release" anything.
> >>>> He did not release a copy of his original birth certificate that was
> >>>> issued at the time of his birth. There is a difference.
> >>> No there is not. Sorry, but at least I accept that this is all you have.
> >> Yes, there is a difference in the types of birth certificates that were
> >> provided in 1961 and the ones provided now. I have more familiarity with
> >> birth certificates issued in 1961 than you.
> >
> > Right, well too bad you got this one wrong. The only available
> > certificate has been produced time and time again, but morons like you
> > just can't stand a black man being President.
> "The only available certificate has been produced." I can get one just
> like Obama's too or I can get a copy of the true original certificate of
> my birth. In fact I have certified copies of both. Funny thing is they
> don't look the same. One is printed on funny colored paper and the other
> is a negative image a record recored at the time of my birth. Hmmmm.

Oh, just give it up and grow up.