From: dene on 15 Sep 2009 19:32 "BAR" <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote in message news:6_6dndgd6os-gC3XnZ2dnUVZ_oRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > William Clark wrote: > > In article <W7GdncK-dquilTLXnZ2dnUVZ_oli4p2d(a)giganews.com>, > > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > > > >> William Clark wrote: > >>> In article <iaona5d4p8hao3iakooafi8q28thul8uvg(a)4ax.com>, > >>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:14:10 -0500, Lloyd Parsons > >>>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article <ijpla5lo3hhrobi9mjhuf2f1jlg7p8bsr9(a)4ax.com>, > >>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Wrong. Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate that was > >>>>>>> issued at the time of his birth. McCain and Palin lost the election and > >>>>>>> are not the President or Vice-President. > >>>>>> I'm not sure how it became public but records of the evaluation McCain > >>>>>> received after his release from the POW camp are known. His score, a > >>>>>> very superior 133. Not quite Mensa material, but close. > >>>>> I don't remember anyone saying that McCain was stupid. Old and senile > >>>>> possibly?? :) > >>>> If you stay active in your old age you can still cogitate quite well. > >>>> BTW, JFK took a Otis IQ test as part of his high school admission and > >>>> scored a rather modest 119. > >>>> > >>>> I guess the question is do you really have to be very smart to be a > >>>> good President? Although I've never been able to find any objective > >>>> measures, Jimmy Carter is reported to be very smart. He was training > >>>> to be nuclear engineering officer when he left the Navy. For the most > >>>> part, nuclear engineers are pretty smart. Smart or not, Carter wasn't > >>>> a very successful President. However, I have to admit that he had a > >>>> lot of bad luck as well. > >>> Gosh, Jack, tell us how smart you have to be to get into "Columbia", why > >>> don't you? We are waiting. > >> Obama, the dope smoking cocaine addict (read his book), was able to get > >> in and stay in and graduate so it couldn't have been too difficult. > > > > But obviously too difficult for you to stay in anywhere and finish a > > degree. > > > > A little resentful, are we? > > Resentful, me? No. I don't have big education, nor do I hate big > business. I have become quite adept at using both to my advantage. > > I am quite happy with my life. Good career, good wife, great kids and > I'll be retiring at 56 without a drop in my standard of living. You and I both. So when are you going to get that boat?? -Greg
From: BAR on 15 Sep 2009 19:34 William Clark wrote: > In article > <8ab1e71e-c5e3-4eba-8275-6af4f35795dc(a)g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > >> On Sep 15, 7:29 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- >> state.edu> wrote: >>> In article >>> <5afd7a0e-d9ca-46bc-b4ea-8d0ad6086...(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, >>> >>> >>> >>> Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: >>>> On Sep 14, 3:38 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- >>>> state.edu> wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <9a7c191f-1ea8-46fd-9ca1-340f53f8f...(a)k39g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>> What is truly absurd is your belief that I have some ship on my >>>>>> shoulder here. If you have a problem with what just about everyone in >>>>>> this business thinks of deadwood faculty...too bad for you. >>>>>> In any event, I was just reporting what the guy said...if all you can >>>>>> do with a masters degree is get a job that pays $60,000, it's not >>>>>> really worth the effort. You have a chip on your shoulder on that, >>>>>> tough for you! >>>>> A "ship" on your shoulder? HMS Clavicle, perhaps? Holy smoke, no wonder >>>>> you have a hard time functioning! This sounds like something from >>>>> "Monty >>>>> Python". >>>>> But while we are on it, why don't you let us all in on your definition >>>>> of "deadwood" faculty"? You seem to like to bandy the term around, so >>>>> let's be more specific, please. >>>>> over to you. >>>> We all know what this is. Some loser who got tenure and thinks (s)he >>>> has a guaranteed job, so they do basically nothing but the minimal >>>> work. No grants or contracts of their own, and they expect to teach >>>> some minimal number of hours. They produce nothing or next to nothing. >>>> Often have had their lab space reduced or eliminated. They should be >>>> fired for violating their contracts, as they are in violation by not >>>> producing an acceptable level of research as required by those >>>> contracts, but for some reason they are not. State universities are >>>> loaded with them, as you know. There's a place you could save a lot of >>>> money. Lots of very active very hungry young academics out there with >>>> grants and contracts ready to take those jobs for 1/2 the salary, but >>>> nope! >>> Actually, I don't know that "state universities are loaded with them", >>> at least, not here. Perhaps you have a list of such faculty at Ohio >>> State that you would care to share with us? >> Really? Lets see the list of grants and contracts, professor by >> professor. The ones that have no grants or contracts where they are >> the PI are the deadwood. > > We bring in about $600M per year in external funds to Ohio, that are > then leveraged by 2-4 times per dollar. ou can find the details on the > OSU web site. > > What does Mississippi College do in that regard? Something about glass > houses and throwing stones comes to mind. Mississippi 9.7 vs Ohio 11.2 and like golf the lower the number the better.
From: BAR on 15 Sep 2009 19:40 dene wrote: > "BAR" <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote in message > news:6_6dndgd6os-gC3XnZ2dnUVZ_oRi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> William Clark wrote: >>> In article <W7GdncK-dquilTLXnZ2dnUVZ_oli4p2d(a)giganews.com>, >>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >>> >>>> William Clark wrote: >>>>> In article <iaona5d4p8hao3iakooafi8q28thul8uvg(a)4ax.com>, >>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:14:10 -0500, Lloyd Parsons >>>>>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article <ijpla5lo3hhrobi9mjhuf2f1jlg7p8bsr9(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wrong. Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate that > was >>>>>>>>> issued at the time of his birth. McCain and Palin lost the > election and >>>>>>>>> are not the President or Vice-President. >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how it became public but records of the evaluation > McCain >>>>>>>> received after his release from the POW camp are known. His score, > a >>>>>>>> very superior 133. Not quite Mensa material, but close. >>>>>>> I don't remember anyone saying that McCain was stupid. Old and > senile >>>>>>> possibly?? :) >>>>>> If you stay active in your old age you can still cogitate quite well. >>>>>> BTW, JFK took a Otis IQ test as part of his high school admission and >>>>>> scored a rather modest 119. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess the question is do you really have to be very smart to be a >>>>>> good President? Although I've never been able to find any objective >>>>>> measures, Jimmy Carter is reported to be very smart. He was > training >>>>>> to be nuclear engineering officer when he left the Navy. For the > most >>>>>> part, nuclear engineers are pretty smart. Smart or not, Carter > wasn't >>>>>> a very successful President. However, I have to admit that he had a >>>>>> lot of bad luck as well. >>>>> Gosh, Jack, tell us how smart you have to be to get into "Columbia", > why >>>>> don't you? We are waiting. >>>> Obama, the dope smoking cocaine addict (read his book), was able to get >>>> in and stay in and graduate so it couldn't have been too difficult. >>> But obviously too difficult for you to stay in anywhere and finish a >>> degree. >>> >>> A little resentful, are we? >> Resentful, me? No. I don't have big education, nor do I hate big >> business. I have become quite adept at using both to my advantage. >> >> I am quite happy with my life. Good career, good wife, great kids and >> I'll be retiring at 56 without a drop in my standard of living. > > You and I both. So when are you going to get that boat?? About 15 minutes after I get the new wife.
From: BAR on 15 Sep 2009 19:56 Carbon wrote: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:20:43 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4aaf1d3f$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:18:44 -0400, BAR wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think you want to go down the articulate path. Obama doesn't >>>> go anywhere without his Tele-Prompter. When Obama speaks >>>> extemporaneously he sounds like an idiot and makes GWB's verbal >>>> miscues appear like normal stutters. >>> Where are you true believers getting this garbage from anyway? >> Ummm, errrrr, ahhhhh. > > I thought so. > > You normally see this when he is being asked policy type questions, and > he is clearly being careful with what he says. He is the President after > all, and it is generally a bad idea to give too much away or to mislead > people. The advantage is that he does emit high quality output, so you > don't often see types trying to explain away various gaffes, as they had > to do so often under Wubya. He is a stunantz. An idiot. In over his head.
From: Carbon on 15 Sep 2009 20:14
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:16:58 -0400, BAR wrote: > Bobby Knight wrote: > >> Which is it Bert? You've admitted that there is an original birth >> certificate with no father listed, and then question your very own >> statement. > > I have admitted anything, I said I believe that the reason Obama > hasn't provided a true copy of his original record of birth is that it > has information that is embarrassing to him politically and I believe > that information is that his father is not listed or that Obama is > listed as Caucasian. You have no idea whatsoever. Yet you "believe". How quaint. |