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"BAR" <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote in message
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> William Clark wrote:
> > In article <W7GdncK-dquilTLXnZ2dnUVZ_oli4p2d(a)giganews.com>,
> > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
> >
> >> William Clark wrote:
> >>> In article <iaona5d4p8hao3iakooafi8q28thul8uvg(a)4ax.com>,
> >>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:14:10 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >>>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <ijpla5lo3hhrobi9mjhuf2f1jlg7p8bsr9(a)4ax.com>,
> >>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wrong. Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate that
was
> >>>>>>> issued at the time of his birth. McCain and Palin lost the
election and
> >>>>>>> are not the President or Vice-President.
> >>>>>> I'm not sure how it became public but records of the evaluation
McCain
> >>>>>> received after his release from the POW camp are known. His score,
a
> >>>>>> very superior 133. Not quite Mensa material, but close.
> >>>>> I don't remember anyone saying that McCain was stupid. Old and
senile
> >>>>> possibly?? :)
> >>>> If you stay active in your old age you can still cogitate quite well.
> >>>> BTW, JFK took a Otis IQ test as part of his high school admission and
> >>>> scored a rather modest 119.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess the question is do you really have to be very smart to be a
> >>>> good President? Although I've never been able to find any objective
> >>>> measures, Jimmy Carter is reported to be very smart. He was
training
> >>>> to be nuclear engineering officer when he left the Navy. For the
most
> >>>> part, nuclear engineers are pretty smart. Smart or not, Carter
wasn't
> >>>> a very successful President. However, I have to admit that he had a
> >>>> lot of bad luck as well.
> >>> Gosh, Jack, tell us how smart you have to be to get into "Columbia",
why
> >>> don't you? We are waiting.
> >> Obama, the dope smoking cocaine addict (read his book), was able to get
> >> in and stay in and graduate so it couldn't have been too difficult.
> >
> > But obviously too difficult for you to stay in anywhere and finish a
> > degree.
> >
> > A little resentful, are we?
>
> Resentful, me? No. I don't have big education, nor do I hate big
> business. I have become quite adept at using both to my advantage.
>
> I am quite happy with my life. Good career, good wife, great kids and
> I'll be retiring at 56 without a drop in my standard of living.

You and I both. So when are you going to get that boat??

-Greg


From: BAR on
William Clark wrote:
> In article
> <8ab1e71e-c5e3-4eba-8275-6af4f35795dc(a)g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 15, 7:29 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>> state.edu> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <5afd7a0e-d9ca-46bc-b4ea-8d0ad6086...(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 14, 3:38 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>>>> state.edu> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <9a7c191f-1ea8-46fd-9ca1-340f53f8f...(a)k39g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Let's all pause for a moment while he adjusts that almighty chip on
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> shoulder.
>>>>>> What is truly absurd is your belief that I have some ship on my
>>>>>> shoulder here. If you have a problem with what just about everyone in
>>>>>> this business thinks of deadwood faculty...too bad for you.
>>>>>> In any event, I was just reporting what the guy said...if all you can
>>>>>> do with a masters degree is get a job that pays $60,000, it's not
>>>>>> really worth the effort. You have a chip on your shoulder on that,
>>>>>> tough for you!
>>>>> A "ship" on your shoulder? HMS Clavicle, perhaps? Holy smoke, no wonder
>>>>> you have a hard time functioning! This sounds like something from
>>>>> "Monty
>>>>> Python".
>>>>> But while we are on it, why don't you let us all in on your definition
>>>>> of "deadwood" faculty"? You seem to like to bandy the term around, so
>>>>> let's be more specific, please.
>>>>> over to you.
>>>> We all know what this is. Some loser who got tenure and thinks (s)he
>>>> has a guaranteed job, so they do basically nothing but the minimal
>>>> work. No grants or contracts of their own, and they expect to teach
>>>> some minimal number of hours. They produce nothing or next to nothing.
>>>> Often have had their lab space reduced or eliminated. They should be
>>>> fired for violating their contracts, as they are in violation by not
>>>> producing an acceptable level of research as required by those
>>>> contracts, but for some reason they are not. State universities are
>>>> loaded with them, as you know. There's a place you could save a lot of
>>>> money. Lots of very active very hungry young academics out there with
>>>> grants and contracts ready to take those jobs for 1/2 the salary, but
>>>> nope!
>>> Actually, I don't know that "state universities are loaded with them",
>>> at least, not here. Perhaps you have a list of such faculty at Ohio
>>> State that you would care to share with us?
>> Really? Lets see the list of grants and contracts, professor by
>> professor. The ones that have no grants or contracts where they are
>> the PI are the deadwood.
>
> We bring in about $600M per year in external funds to Ohio, that are
> then leveraged by 2-4 times per dollar. ou can find the details on the
> OSU web site.
>
> What does Mississippi College do in that regard? Something about glass
> houses and throwing stones comes to mind.

Mississippi 9.7 vs Ohio 11.2 and like golf the lower the number the better.
From: BAR on
dene wrote:
> "BAR" <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote in message
> news:6_6dndgd6os-gC3XnZ2dnUVZ_oRi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>> William Clark wrote:
>>> In article <W7GdncK-dquilTLXnZ2dnUVZ_oli4p2d(a)giganews.com>,
>>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>>> In article <iaona5d4p8hao3iakooafi8q28thul8uvg(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:14:10 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>>>>>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <ijpla5lo3hhrobi9mjhuf2f1jlg7p8bsr9(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong. Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate that
> was
>>>>>>>>> issued at the time of his birth. McCain and Palin lost the
> election and
>>>>>>>>> are not the President or Vice-President.
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how it became public but records of the evaluation
> McCain
>>>>>>>> received after his release from the POW camp are known. His score,
> a
>>>>>>>> very superior 133. Not quite Mensa material, but close.
>>>>>>> I don't remember anyone saying that McCain was stupid. Old and
> senile
>>>>>>> possibly?? :)
>>>>>> If you stay active in your old age you can still cogitate quite well.
>>>>>> BTW, JFK took a Otis IQ test as part of his high school admission and
>>>>>> scored a rather modest 119.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the question is do you really have to be very smart to be a
>>>>>> good President? Although I've never been able to find any objective
>>>>>> measures, Jimmy Carter is reported to be very smart. He was
> training
>>>>>> to be nuclear engineering officer when he left the Navy. For the
> most
>>>>>> part, nuclear engineers are pretty smart. Smart or not, Carter
> wasn't
>>>>>> a very successful President. However, I have to admit that he had a
>>>>>> lot of bad luck as well.
>>>>> Gosh, Jack, tell us how smart you have to be to get into "Columbia",
> why
>>>>> don't you? We are waiting.
>>>> Obama, the dope smoking cocaine addict (read his book), was able to get
>>>> in and stay in and graduate so it couldn't have been too difficult.
>>> But obviously too difficult for you to stay in anywhere and finish a
>>> degree.
>>>
>>> A little resentful, are we?
>> Resentful, me? No. I don't have big education, nor do I hate big
>> business. I have become quite adept at using both to my advantage.
>>
>> I am quite happy with my life. Good career, good wife, great kids and
>> I'll be retiring at 56 without a drop in my standard of living.
>
> You and I both. So when are you going to get that boat??

About 15 minutes after I get the new wife.
From: BAR on
Carbon wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:20:43 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4aaf1d3f$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:18:44 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think you want to go down the articulate path. Obama doesn't
>>>> go anywhere without his Tele-Prompter. When Obama speaks
>>>> extemporaneously he sounds like an idiot and makes GWB's verbal
>>>> miscues appear like normal stutters.
>>> Where are you true believers getting this garbage from anyway?
>> Ummm, errrrr, ahhhhh.
>
> I thought so.
>
> You normally see this when he is being asked policy type questions, and
> he is clearly being careful with what he says. He is the President after
> all, and it is generally a bad idea to give too much away or to mislead
> people. The advantage is that he does emit high quality output, so you
> don't often see types trying to explain away various gaffes, as they had
> to do so often under Wubya.

He is a stunantz. An idiot. In over his head.
From: Carbon on
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:16:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
> Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> Which is it Bert? You've admitted that there is an original birth
>> certificate with no father listed, and then question your very own
>> statement.
>
> I have admitted anything, I said I believe that the reason Obama
> hasn't provided a true copy of his original record of birth is that it
> has information that is embarrassing to him politically and I believe
> that information is that his father is not listed or that Obama is
> listed as Caucasian.

You have no idea whatsoever. Yet you "believe". How quaint.