From: gray asphalt on 22 Sep 2009 01:22 "Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:94rda5hile1l3b81pefnn0srd85tpqs1bo(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:36:50 -0700, "gray asphalt" > <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> It's not an accident that Obama is surrounded by extreme left-wing >>> radicals. I have no doubt that Obama was, and is, more inspired by >>> Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson. >> >>Do you think Karl Marx's ideas were bad or was it that the >>ideas just weren't workable and that the implementation of >>them let to a dictatorship? > > The problem with Marxism is that it goes against human nature. Humans > basically act in their own self interest. People wont work hard for > some abstract concept of the greater good of society, but they will > work hard if they see the chance of a reward at the end. That's why > capitalism has won out over communism and socialism. > > You see, when it comes down to it, there's nothing like a little > bourgeois self-indulgence, even if that means buying a Cuban cigar > once in a while. The evidence of soldiers dying for their country, mothers and fathers struggling through their lives for the benefit of their children, people choosing public service instead of self-interest ... can't be explained in terms of limited self-interest. Imo, communism lost in Russia because it was perverted. Socialism seems to be working in Sweden, France and other countries, no?
From: gray asphalt on 22 Sep 2009 01:25 "DenaliDuffer" <denaliduffer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e51916ef-c09b-4c18-9caf-29e49448618b(a)h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Aug 12, 10:18 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > On 12-Aug-2009, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm an Obama supporter but ... > > > 1. Why do all of the reforms have to be contained in one huge bill? > > Because the real purpose is not reform in the true sense of the word, but > expanding gov't control? > > -- > bill-o Please answer just this one question. What value do insurance companies add to health care? ___________________ Beats me. I can't wait to read the responses.
From: gray asphalt on 22 Sep 2009 01:32 "Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1g4ja5hgcmnq0v70nafmp5gftigua55pud(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:34:25 -0700 (PDT), DenaliDuffer > <denaliduffer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Please answer just this one question. What value do insurance >>companies add to health care? > > They pool risk. A simple task. I wonder what percentage of your premiums you are willing to pay to have somone "pool risk". Aftermarket auto warranties do the same thing. Warranties on electronics do the same thing. The insurance on registered mail does the same thing. Big deal.
From: The moderator on 22 Sep 2009 08:37 "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:16Ztm.183144$O23.90499(a)newsfe11.iad... > > To cut to the chase ... I think it is wishful > thinking to believe that the current insurance > companies are going to treat you fairly. > If they wanted to be up front about what > they do and do not cover there would be > a list. Coverage is defined and exceptions listed in every insurance policy.
From: Jack Hollis on 22 Sep 2009 10:00
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:22:14 -0700, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> You see, when it comes down to it, there's nothing like a little >> bourgeois self-indulgence, even if that means buying a Cuban cigar >> once in a while. > >The evidence of soldiers dying for their country, >mothers and fathers struggling through their lives >for the benefit of their children, people choosing >public service instead of self-interest ... can't be >explained in terms of limited self-interest. Some people get a sense of great satisfaction from doing "selfless" acts. Feeling good about yourself is self-interest. Are there any truly selfless acts? >Imo, communism lost in Russia because it was >perverted. Socialism seems to be working in >Sweden, France and other countries, no? The Social Democracies of Western Europe have socialist elements to them, but they are capitalist at heart. They all have a private sector and private property. The trend over the past twenty years in Europe has been towards privatization. |