From: MNMikeW on

"William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
news:clark-8A0F84.17153212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <850d1uFqbtU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>> news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
>> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
>> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
>> >>>>> Tom
>> >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during
>> >>>>> her
>> >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
>> >>>>> parting
>> >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
>> >>>>> scathing
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
>> >>>>> National
>> >>>>> Tea
>> >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
>> >>>>> said
>> >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
>> >>>>> elected
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
>> >>>>> require a
>> >>>>> "civics literacy test."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
>> >>>>> off
>> >>>>> by
>> >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
>> >>>>> tests
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
>> >>>>same
>> >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>> >>>>
>> >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo.
>> >>> No
>> >>> group made those statements.
>> >>>
>> >>> BK
>> >>
>> >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
>> >>by
>> >>this movement"
>> >>A movement is a group.
>> >>
>> > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only
>> > Tancredo.
>> >
>> > BK
>>
>> And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
>> have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
>> turned
>> off by Tom Tancredo".
>
> Oh, come on, even you can do better than this. Not wanting to face facts
> is one thing, but these contortions are beyond absurd.

The contortion is saying that Tancredo was speaking FOR the TeaParty, when
actually he was speaking TO the TeaParty.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <850l5kFb1vU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-8A0F84.17153212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <850d1uFqbtU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> >> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
> >> >>>>> Tom
> >> >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during
> >> >>>>> her
> >> >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> >> >>>>> parting
> >> >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
> >> >>>>> scathing
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
> >> >>>>> National
> >> >>>>> Tea
> >> >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
> >> >>>>> said
> >> >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> >> >>>>> elected
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
> >> >>>>> require a
> >> >>>>> "civics literacy test."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> >> >>>>> off
> >> >>>>> by
> >> >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
> >> >>>>> with
> >> >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
> >> >>>>> tests
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
> >> >>>>same
> >> >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo.
> >> >>> No
> >> >>> group made those statements.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> BK
> >> >>
> >> >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
> >> >>by
> >> >>this movement"
> >> >>A movement is a group.
> >> >>
> >> > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only
> >> > Tancredo.
> >> >
> >> > BK
> >>
> >> And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
> >> have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> >> turned
> >> off by Tom Tancredo".
> >
> > Oh, come on, even you can do better than this. Not wanting to face facts
> > is one thing, but these contortions are beyond absurd.
>
> The contortion is saying that Tancredo was speaking FOR the TeaParty, when
> actually he was speaking TO the TeaParty.

And it's your contention that they invited him to speak because he was
going to say things with which they did *not* agree?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on
In article <850l5kFb1vU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-8A0F84.17153212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <850d1uFqbtU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> >> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
> >> >>>>> Tom
> >> >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during
> >> >>>>> her
> >> >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> >> >>>>> parting
> >> >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
> >> >>>>> scathing
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
> >> >>>>> National
> >> >>>>> Tea
> >> >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
> >> >>>>> said
> >> >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> >> >>>>> elected
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
> >> >>>>> require a
> >> >>>>> "civics literacy test."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> >> >>>>> off
> >> >>>>> by
> >> >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
> >> >>>>> with
> >> >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
> >> >>>>> tests
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
> >> >>>>same
> >> >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo.
> >> >>> No
> >> >>> group made those statements.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> BK
> >> >>
> >> >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
> >> >>by
> >> >>this movement"
> >> >>A movement is a group.
> >> >>
> >> > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only
> >> > Tancredo.
> >> >
> >> > BK
> >>
> >> And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
> >> have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> >> turned
> >> off by Tom Tancredo".
> >
> > Oh, come on, even you can do better than this. Not wanting to face facts
> > is one thing, but these contortions are beyond absurd.
>
> The contortion is saying that Tancredo was speaking FOR the TeaParty, when
> actually he was speaking TO the TeaParty.

Oh, this just gets funnier and funnier. Keep it up.
From: MNMikeW on

"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wclark2-996B6C.20122612052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <850l5kFb1vU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
>> news:clark-8A0F84.17153212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> > In article <850d1uFqbtU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
>> >> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
>> >> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
>> >> >>>>> Tom
>> >> >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole
>> >> >>>>> during
>> >> >>>>> her
>> >> >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
>> >> >>>>> parting
>> >> >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
>> >> >>>>> scathing
>> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
>> >> >>>>> National
>> >> >>>>> Tea
>> >> >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech,
>> >> >>>>> Tancredo
>> >> >>>>> said
>> >> >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
>> >> >>>>> elected
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
>> >> >>>>> require a
>> >> >>>>> "civics literacy test."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
>> >> >>>>> turned
>> >> >>>>> off
>> >> >>>>> by
>> >> >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
>> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
>> >> >>>>> tests
>> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
>> >> >>>>same
>> >> >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to
>> >> >>> Tancredo.
>> >> >>> No
>> >> >>> group made those statements.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> BK
>> >> >>
>> >> >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
>> >> >>off
>> >> >>by
>> >> >>this movement"
>> >> >>A movement is a group.
>> >> >>
>> >> > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only
>> >> > Tancredo.
>> >> >
>> >> > BK
>> >>
>> >> And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's
>> >> should
>> >> have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
>> >> turned
>> >> off by Tom Tancredo".
>> >
>> > Oh, come on, even you can do better than this. Not wanting to face
>> > facts
>> > is one thing, but these contortions are beyond absurd.
>>
>> The contortion is saying that Tancredo was speaking FOR the TeaParty,
>> when
>> actually he was speaking TO the TeaParty.
>
> Oh, this just gets funnier and funnier. Keep it up.

Don't you have some students to indoctrinate?


From: William Clark on
In article <852h5kFbjqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-996B6C.20122612052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <850l5kFb1vU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:clark-8A0F84.17153212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> > In article <850d1uFqbtU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> >> >> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> >> >> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
> >> >> >>>>> Tom
> >> >> >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole
> >> >> >>>>> during
> >> >> >>>>> her
> >> >> >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> >> >> >>>>> parting
> >> >> >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
> >> >> >>>>> scathing
> >> >> >>>>> in
> >> >> >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
> >> >> >>>>> National
> >> >> >>>>> Tea
> >> >> >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech,
> >> >> >>>>> Tancredo
> >> >> >>>>> said
> >> >> >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> >> >> >>>>> elected
> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
> >> >> >>>>> require a
> >> >> >>>>> "civics literacy test."
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> >> >> >>>>> turned
> >> >> >>>>> off
> >> >> >>>>> by
> >> >> >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
> >> >> >>>>> with
> >> >> >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
> >> >> >>>>> tests
> >> >> >>>>> and
> >> >> >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
> >> >> >>>>same
> >> >> >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to
> >> >> >>> Tancredo.
> >> >> >>> No
> >> >> >>> group made those statements.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> BK
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> >> >> >>off
> >> >> >>by
> >> >> >>this movement"
> >> >> >>A movement is a group.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only
> >> >> > Tancredo.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BK
> >> >>
> >> >> And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's
> >> >> should
> >> >> have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> >> >> turned
> >> >> off by Tom Tancredo".
> >> >
> >> > Oh, come on, even you can do better than this. Not wanting to face
> >> > facts
> >> > is one thing, but these contortions are beyond absurd.
> >>
> >> The contortion is saying that Tancredo was speaking FOR the TeaParty,
> >> when
> >> actually he was speaking TO the TeaParty.
> >
> > Oh, this just gets funnier and funnier. Keep it up.
>
> Don't you have some students to indoctrinate?

No, we've finished today's waterboarding already.