From: John B. on
On May 12, 2:30 pm, Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote:
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> >this movement"
> >A movement is a group.
>
> Not neccessarily... there may/can be several "groups" within a
> "movement."
>
> --
There can also be a bowel movement.
From: John B. on
On May 12, 3:09 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> news:3uslu5ln8mtrj0kqumh17cub45fbqta6pk(a)4ax.com...
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>
>
> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:28:00 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >>news:kcplu59brbsqndolnlc1f575s35j7ipio3(a)4ax.com...
> >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:27:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:3tklu5da1bh9qimof0o9a68sjmr1tjfkno(a)4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:45:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:hsd98s$5n4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>>>>>> One can find deviants in any demographic group. Painting the
> >>>>>>> character
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> an entire group based upon the actions of a few is politely called
> >>>>>>> stereotyping. Impolitely, it can be called some other things.
>
> >>>>>>Kind of like what the media does to the Tea Party movement.
>
> >>>>> correct, but don't blame the media because the Tea Party doesn't keep
> >>>>> those few fools in check.
>
> >>>>> BK
>
> >>>>And just how exactly are they supposed to do that.
>
> >>> For starters take control of their meetings and demonstrations.
>
> >>The Tea Party movement is not controlled by a single entity. And ANYBODY
> >>can
> >>show up at ANY demonstration.
>
> > And when they do they represent the group demonstrating.  All
> > demonstrations are monitored by the backers of that demonstration and
> > usually try to handle those situations before they get out of hand.
>
> Pure baloney.
>
> >>>>So the Hispanic community should be blamed for not keeping their fools
> >>>>in check?
>
> >>> Of course.  Why would you think differently?
>
> >>> BK
>
> >>Ok, I'll hold my breath till this happens.
>
> > It happens at demonstrations, and when they get out of hand those who
> > initiated the demonstration are held responsible.
>
> > BK
>
> I certainly didn't see anyone holding anyone accountable for the rioting
> that went on during the 5th of May demonstrations.

I would hope that ALL the inmates in CA prisons are documented
criminals.
From: John B. on
On May 12, 4:30 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <850d1uFqb...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
>
>
>  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> > >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. Tom
> > >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during her
> > >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>
> > >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> > >>>>> parting
> > >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly scathing
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the National
> > >>>>> Tea
> > >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
> > >>>>> said
> > >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> > >>>>> elected
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not require a
> > >>>>> "civics literacy test."
>
> > >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
> > >>>>> by
> > >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start with
> > >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy tests
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>
> > >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the same
> > >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>
> > >>> How so?  She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo. No
> > >>> group made those statements.
>
> > >>> BK
>
> > >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by
> > >>this movement"
> > >>A movement is a group.
>
> > > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding.  Only
> > > Tancredo.
>
> > > BK
>
> > And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
> > have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> > off by Tom Tancredo".
>
> Tom Tancredo acted as a spokesperson for the Tea Party movement, so what
> he says has an effect on how people see that movement.
>
No he didn't. He was speaking TO the Tea Party movement, or to members
of it.
From: Billy on
In article <hsddjl$i1a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5e5aa8bc-06fe-41f7-84b1-
>
> > I said a high percentage. I didn't compare it to any other percentage.
>
>
>
> Got a cite for that?

When are you bozos going to get it through your thick skulls that
illegals didn't send your jobs over seas? Illegals didn't start two
vanity wars costing trillion$ of dollar$ of debt and human suffering.
Illegals didn't change banking laws so that Goldman Sachs, A.I.G. et al.
could rip-off trillion$ from the tax payer's coffers, closing businesses
and throwing people out into the street. It wasn't illegals who wrote a
heath care reform law that guaranteed that insurance companies would
make more money, win or lose. It isn't illegals that say that the US
must have 1000 military bases around the world and spend half of the
world's military budget. It wasn't illegals that wrote NAFTA, that
allows the US to dump tax subsidized corn and other grains on the
Mexican market, below the cost of production, resulting in the loss of
Mexican farm jobs. No, it wasn't illegals. It was white guys in suits,
so if you want the militia to chase somebody, it should be the "White
Guys in Suits".

Mexicans lower the cost of living for Americans with low cost house
cleaning, gardening, childcare, and harvesting our food. No stinkin'
white guy in a suit ever did that for you. grrrrr

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html?ex=1270353
600&en=78c87ac4641dc383&ei=5090&partner=kmarx>

<http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/03/year-without-mexican>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/business/29tax.html>

<http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/17/ex_asst_treasury_sec_paul_craig>
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: F. Kurgan Gringioni on

"Billy" <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote in message
news:wildbilly-A263F9.16170413052010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article <hsddjl$i1a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> "F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5e5aa8bc-06fe-41f7-84b1-
>>
>> > I said a high percentage. I didn't compare it to any other percentage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Got a cite for that?
>
> When are you bozos going to get it through your thick skulls that
> illegals didn't send your jobs over seas?

<snip>


I never claimed that. Thanks for your cites.