From: ShrekUtog on
Can anyone recommend drills which will help me hit down on the golf
ball, with great impact position (hands ahead of the club, etc)...

From: Otto on

<ShrekUtog(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone recommend drills which will help me hit down on the golf
> ball, with great impact position (hands ahead of the club, etc)...


You might try this:


http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=4522


Otto


From: David Geesaman on
ShrekUtog(a)gmail.com wrote:
> Can anyone recommend drills which will help me hit down on the golf
> ball, with great impact position (hands ahead of the club, etc)...
>


Start with easy 1/4 swings where your goal is to keep your wrists cocked
even through impact. Let the hands stay ahead of the ball and just let
the clubhead dip down enough to skim down behind the ball.

Another trick is to set a ball down behind your ball about 6" back and
try to hit the front ball without touching it. Partial swings again.

The challenge is that most people who scoop the ball can be taught to
get better with small swings, but it goes to pot when you swing above
75%. Be patient, swing slow, and keep your wrists cocked all the way
through the swing.

Dave
From: Steve on

<ShrekUtog(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189734292.631580.176720(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Can anyone recommend drills which will help me hit down on the golf
> ball, with great impact position (hands ahead of the club, etc)...
>

I have the same problem. What I have been trying is to place a ball well
ahead of where you normally have your ball and hit that. 6-8 inches ahead.
Also in my backyard I partially bury a ball at my normal ball position and
place a pine cone 6 inches in front and swing so I miss the ball but hit the
pine cone.


From: larry on
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:30:14 -0700, "Steve" <steve(a)nospamplease.com>
wrote:

>
><ShrekUtog(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1189734292.631580.176720(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> Can anyone recommend drills which will help me hit down on the golf
>> ball, with great impact position (hands ahead of the club, etc)...
>>
>
>I have the same problem. What I have been trying is to place a ball well
>ahead of where you normally have your ball and hit that. 6-8 inches ahead.
>Also in my backyard I partially bury a ball at my normal ball position and
>place a pine cone 6 inches in front and swing so I miss the ball but hit the
>pine cone.

It is easy IF you have properly moved your weight to your front leg
before impact-- or said another way, unweighted your back foot before
impact. When you make that early weight shift your hips turn toward
the target and your swing center moves forward 6" or so, and the
bottom of your swing moves ahead of the ball position. Voila! You
automatically hit down on the ball because your clubhead is still
going down at impact. Your hips also "clear" to allow you to propel
the clubhead from inside the target line, preventing slice.

BUT, if you lag back like 99% of golfers, if you have weight retained
on your back foot at impact, you can only throw your arms and/or
manipulate the clubhead with hands--to fake a correct golf swing.

The long-term permanent fix is to learn the transition move.

This blurb almost verbatim from "SLAP" Swing Like A Pro.

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>Anatomy of the Transition Move

Golf would be simplified enormously if all you had to do was place
your body and the club in a mechanically perfect, rock-stead position
at the top of the backswing and then swing from there. A backswing
wouldn't even be necessary. You could merely lift the club into
place, check that your positions were sound, and then move all your
body parts forward all at once, confident that a perfect swing was
pre-programmed.

The golf swing doesn't transpire that way, of course, nor does any
truly athletic movement in any other sport. To again borrow the
analogy of throwing a ball, imagine a baseball pitcher reaching the
top of his windup and then, keeping his lower body stationary,
flipping the ball forward with his arm alone. He'd throw a pretty
feeble pitch. He needs a dynamic transition move, a cooperative
movement between his upper and lower body that accumulates energy,
stores it, then unleashes it with tremendous speed and force.

To set the stage for a correct, powerful downswing, it is necessary
for the upper and lower body to move in opposite directions just
before the downswing actually gets underway. That's what the
transition move is all about. A moment before your torso, shoulders,
and arms complete their journey to the top of the backswing, the lower
body, led by the hips, begins moving and rotating toward the target.

Performed the right way, the transition move accomplishes several
objectives. First, it "loads" the swing dynamically. The large
rotational muscles in your trunk or core are stretched like rubber
bands or a coil spring. So, too, are all the muscles running from
your torso to your arms. They become stretched and taut, ready to
snap into action to provide great speed and strength.

Secondly, the accompanying weight shift from the back to the front
foot that happens when the lower body moves forward provides a stable
base of support for the unwinding of the upper body that occurs a
moment later. It enables you to swing all-out with your shoulders,
arms, and hands without risk of losing your balance or wasting energy.

Finally, the initial move forward with your feet, legs, and hips sets
up a chain reaction of movements in the upper body that allows you to
transport the club forward along the proper swing path.

Although the primary purpose of the transition move is to produce
power, it has the equally important effect of allowing the correct
swing path to occur. One of the major reasons most golfers fade or
slice is because they're unable to move their lower body out of the
way of the upper body, arms, hands, and club. It is obvious that if
the hips are in the way during the downswing, the arms and club cannot
follow the inside path required to hit the ball straight. Instead,
the lower body is an obstacle that forces the arms and club outside,
producing the dreaded slice as the clubhead swipes across the ball
from outside-to-in. The transition move serves to remove this
obstacle by initiating an early shift toward the target, clearing the
hips.

How thte clubhead itself moves is important in generating the proper
swing path. The transition move helps to produce what we call the
proper "fall of the club," in which the clubhead actually moves away
from the ball as it nears the top of the swing. This automatically
moves the clubhead onto an inside path during the downswing. The
fall of the club is so important that, if done properly, it
single-handedly eliminates problems related to swing path (the swing
plane).

How to Learn the transition Move

The challenge of learning to uncoil your lower body while the upper
body is still rotating to the top of the backswing is an awesome one
to most golfers. The concept of moving segments of your body in
different directions simultaneously is difficult to grasp, let alone
perform! In a way it is like asking a child to rub his stomach in a
circular motion with one hand while patting the top of his head with
the other. The child will appear confused initially and fail at
first. But if he persists he will learn to do it.

We believe there are only three sound and lasting ways to learn the
transition move. The first is to simply observe the best players in
action. Although all players on the major tours perform the
transition move well, we recommend you select a few whose swings are
noted for their powerful move toward the ball. You'll also find it
helpful to videotape your favorite players as they perform on TV. You
can play those swings back in slow motion and study the moves.

Next, practice the drills. Those listed below are the most efficient
learning tools.

Finally, you MUST practice. That cannot be over-emphasized! Some
aspects of the swing "take" faster than others. Perfecting the
transition move will likely take longer than any other. Be patient
and persevere.

The Transition Drills

These drills are designed to give you the feeling of getting your
lower body to begin the downswing while the upper body continues to
complete the backswing. It is a movement that will feel very unusual
for most amateurs. Once you master it, however, your game will be
transformed!

1. Bump, Hug, and Go

Place the teaching shaft (a golf club with no head), firmly into the
ground vertical. Place it approximately 2 inches from your back hip
when you setup. The teaching shaft will be stuck in the ground just
outside your back foot heel.

As you begin the backswing and shift of your weight to your back leg
and foot, allow your back hip to move laterally just far enough to
bump the shaft lightly as the club is horizontal to the ground. Your
back hip should move NO farther away from the target, do not push the
teaching shaft over. As your backswing continues, your hips simply
"hugs" or stays lightly against the teaching shaft.

At the moment the club becomes vertical to the ground, your arms
horizontal, move your hips laterally away from the shaft and rotate
them toward the target. Your goal is to create as wide a gap as
possible between your hips and the shaft WHILE the upper body
continues rotating to the top of the backswing. You have shifted
your weight toward the target, the transition weight shift.

Swing down and through the ball, noting all the while the sensation of
the transition move. If done properly, you will feel stretching in
the muscles of your trunk, the oblique and lateral muscles connecting
your shoulders and arms to your hips. More importantly, you will
begin to feel the power flow into the large leg and trunk segments.

As with all our drills, you can actually strike the ball. At the
beginning, however, you may want to eliminate the ball so you can
concentrate on the transition moves. Then, when you feel comfortable
with the move ingrained, add the ball and prepare yourself for a
dramatic increase in distance.

2. Step and Go

If you have any baseball experience, you will like this drill. On the
practice range, place a ball on a low tee, then follow this procedure:

Step 1.

Using any club (short irons preferred) set up to the ball in a normal
manner.

Step 2.

As you begin your backswing by moving your entire body onto your back
foot, pick up your front foot and slide it toward your back foot. Make
sure you turn your shoulders-get your front shoulder over your back
foot, a complete 90 degree turn.

Step 3

As the club reaches the vertical position, click your front foot heel
against your back foot heel. Without touching the ground, drive your
front leg and hip toward the target as the shoulders and arms complete
the backswing. You will feel the core lateral and oblique muscles
stretch to their limit and stop your shoulder rotation and pull your
arms and club immediately into the downswing.

Step 4

Finish the swing by allowing the trunk and arm muscles to stretch and
unwind or rebound into the downswing. Don't rush the transition move.
Allow the power to build during the winding portion of the backswing.
If this move is performed correctly, you should hear the "swish" at
the bottom of your swing, where the ball would be. Like cracking a
whip, the big muscles transfer all their power to the end of the club,
creating enormous velocity.

3. Weighted Club Transition

Using a weighted club, and a normal stance, start the swing then stop
when the club is horizontal to the ground.

Slowly resume the swing to the top.

When the club is vertical to the ground, prepare to reverse the club
movement by rotating your hips, then the shoulders, then the arms in
the opposite direction. Once the transition from backswing to
downswing has been completed, keep swinging and allow the momentum of
the heavy club to carry you into a full follow-through.

Common Transition Problems

If learning the transition move proves problematic over a long period
of time, you probably are committing one of five mistakes. Two of
the errors are rooted in poor preswing fundamentals. You can detect
and cure those yourself using a mirror. The third and fourth mistakes
result from poor execution of the transition move itself and will
require observation by a friend. The final problem---lack of body
strength, balance, flexibility, is inherent and can be overcome only
by a rigorous exercise and flexibility program.

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