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From: bknight on 23 Jun 2010 22:16 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:03:06 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > >They are having congressional hearings? What the hell for? The matter has >been settled here by the liberals of RSG. BP is guilty guilty guilty and >Obama should confiscate all of their assets and redistribute as he sees fit. >There simply is no other way to deal with accidents and / or negligence and >/ or regulation dodging and / or bribery should any of it be proven. > Frank, generally your political posts are reasonably thought out, but this is beneath you. Yes, this was an accident, but caused by a greed factor. Your hyperbole is misguided. BK
From: Frank Ketchum on 23 Jun 2010 22:54 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:1qf526hq58s797dpbs1bq0jm3e9jlm7cc7(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:03:06 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" > <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > >> >>They are having congressional hearings? What the hell for? The matter >>has >>been settled here by the liberals of RSG. BP is guilty guilty guilty and >>Obama should confiscate all of their assets and redistribute as he sees >>fit. >>There simply is no other way to deal with accidents and / or negligence >>and >>/ or regulation dodging and / or bribery should any of it be proven. >> > > Frank, generally your political posts are reasonably thought out, but > this is beneath you. Yes, this was an accident, but caused by a greed > factor. Your hyperbole is misguided. Bobby, The point is that many are jumping to conclusions. I have stated over and over and over and over (it will be ignored again) that in the end, that point of view may be correct. But evidence that it is true as of right now is flimsy at best. The problem is that a great many people give circumstantial evidence the credence of actual evidence when it aligns with their personal views. BP employees claim BP cuts corners to save money? Good enough for me! That is what I think anyway, big oil is evil. Employees of a company, after all, are always the best source for determining what a company does and why. "Industry experts" claim the same thing? Good enough for me. Industry experts cite past instances where a company has cut corners? Great. Tell me what happened in this particular case exactly. Oh, they don't know yet? Industry experts not involved at all are always the best source for determining what a company does and why. Congressmen and Senators in cycle say that BP cut corners to save money? Good enough for me. Politicians are always the best source for determining what a company does and why. There is a reason circumstantial evidence is called circumstantial. It is not actual evidence. Speculation is not evidence. Political posturing is not evidence. Tell me what exactly actually happened here or stop wasting my time. BP in the end will probably get what they deserve. I believe that they probably were negligent and I think they probably did skirt regulations and pay off overseers. My belief however is not grounds for conviction, nor are anyone else's. Should it be proven, they should be sued out of existence. Next, the regulators tasked with overseeing them should face the music. Then the politicians appointing the regulators. I know I am in the vast minority suggesting that actual facts about what happened be relied upon for reaching conclusions, but so be it. Frank
From: bknight on 23 Jun 2010 23:16 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:13:07 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >> Look closer Frank. The blame game is there for Obama too. > >Duh. You seem to miss the nuance of most of my political posts. I only saw what I perceive as hyperbole in some areas. In this >case I reacted to how one specific individual mentions Bush but not Obama >when clearly they are equally culpable in the matter (which is very little). It came across as wider to me. >I didn't say there aren't idiots blaming Obama. Many of my posts are >nothing more than pointing out blatant hypocrisy where I see it. > IMO one has to be more pointed than vague in forums such as this one, for obvious reasons. BK
From: BAR on 24 Jun 2010 07:16 In article <1qf526hq58s797dpbs1bq0jm3e9jlm7cc7(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:03:06 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" > <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > > > > >They are having congressional hearings? What the hell for? The matter has > >been settled here by the liberals of RSG. BP is guilty guilty guilty and > >Obama should confiscate all of their assets and redistribute as he sees fit. > >There simply is no other way to deal with accidents and / or negligence and > >/ or regulation dodging and / or bribery should any of it be proven. > > > > Frank, generally your political posts are reasonably thought out, but > this is beneath you. Yes, this was an accident, but caused by a greed > factor. Your hyperbole is misguided. Do you have proof Bobby? Or, are you just making this up as you go along? There has been no trial, there has been no legal judgement. Hell, there hasn't even been an investigation.
From: BAR on 24 Jun 2010 07:26
In article <d9j526lvvplnqshit12js1bo2jhnkiv5cg(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:13:07 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" > <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > > >> Look closer Frank. The blame game is there for Obama too. > > > >Duh. You seem to miss the nuance of most of my political posts. > > I only saw what I perceive as hyperbole in some areas. > In this > >case I reacted to how one specific individual mentions Bush but not Obama > >when clearly they are equally culpable in the matter (which is very little). > > It came across as wider to me. > > >I didn't say there aren't idiots blaming Obama. Many of my posts are > >nothing more than pointing out blatant hypocrisy where I see it. > > > IMO one has to be more pointed than vague in forums such as this one, > for obvious reasons. Nuance is lost on you like many of the posters in this newsgroup. |