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From: David Geesaman on 13 Nov 2006 17:15
DaveB wrote:
> On 13 Nov 2006 07:34:14 -0800, "Laura M" <fingerson88(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm having problems with my iliolumbar ligament and haven't been able
>> to golf in awhile. Has anyone had problems with this ligament? I'd be
>> interested in hearing how long it took you to get over it and what you
>> did to strengthen the area. Thank you!!
>>
> Give me a hint where it's located and I will get back to you.
>
> Regards
> Daveb
It's right in between the ileus and lumber, duh. :)

Dave
From: david s-a on 13 Nov 2006 17:45
mchariff wrote:
> When you are standing , place your hands on your hips (pelvis) with the
> thumbs extended, touching the bony prominence on the upper part of the
> pelvis (posterior). The illiolumbar ligament attaches at this approximate
> point and extends upward, also attaching to the lower vertebral bony
> prominences.
>
> Dr. Mark


Oh...THAT illiolumbar ligament!! Yup...I have a problem when I stand and
place my hands on my hips (pelvis) with the thumbs etxtended trying to
touch the upper part of the pelvis (posterior). My thumbs don't reach
it! Also...I don't seem to have any lower vertebral bony prominences!

:-)
david

From: Laura M on 13 Nov 2006 18:30

mchariff wrote:
> #1: You only give up golf when you don't have a patch of terrain to hit a
> small round thing with long thin thing into a hole. All kidding aside,
> simple lumbar extension exercises using an inflatable Swiss ball should help
> most lumbar instability problems. $25 at any sporting goods store,
> instructions included.
>
> Dr. Mark
>
> AKA/ Mark Chariff, D.C.
>
I have a swiss ball here. How would I do a lumbar extension exercise?
Is it possible for you to describe here? I've been doing yoga
stretches but they're not really helping the pain.

From: mchariff on 14 Nov 2006 19:29

Excellent advice Plat ! Also, working at the edge of your therapeutic
envelope in a therapeutically sucessful arena balances out the crummy
reimbursements, at least for me....

Dr. Mark


> We do certainly have a few junk terms! I too believe in self sufficiency.
> Sometimes generic exercises can just make the problem worse, especially if
> they are done incorrectly. Often, it is better done under the guidance of
> a professional to help prevent any further injury. I wish I could say we
> make a lot of bucks on this, but as you know Dr. M, all of our
> reimbursement just sucks lately! :-)
>
> Laura, I can speak for good practitioners in my profession... we do look
> at you as a whole person, not just one aching area. You can try some
> things on your own, but if it gets worse or if generic exercises don't
> help, please find someone very competent and ethical in your area for a
> few visits!
>
>
>
>
>>
>>

From: Plat on 15 Nov 2006 21:37
Yep- you're right. We actually do some self-pay, golf-specific personal
training for our patients and anyone who wants to do it. People really
like the idea of having someone with a medical background who also can
help them exercise!


mchariff wrote:
> Excellent advice Plat ! Also, working at the edge of your therapeutic
> envelope in a therapeutically sucessful arena balances out the crummy
> reimbursements, at least for me....
>
> Dr. Mark
>
>
>
>>We do certainly have a few junk terms! I too believe in self sufficiency.
>>Sometimes generic exercises can just make the problem worse, especially if
>>they are done incorrectly. Often, it is better done under the guidance of
>>a professional to help prevent any further injury. I wish I could say we
>>make a lot of bucks on this, but as you know Dr. M, all of our
>>reimbursement just sucks lately! :-)
>>
>>Laura, I can speak for good practitioners in my profession... we do look
>>at you as a whole person, not just one aching area. You can try some
>>things on your own, but if it gets worse or if generic exercises don't
>>help, please find someone very competent and ethical in your area for a
>>few visits!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
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