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From: bknight on 15 May 2010 11:21 On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:39:55 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >news:0l9tu5pmhbccbr3t4to9e7d6joh4f15kq9(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 15 May 2010 09:37:48 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" >> <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Billy" <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote in message >>>news:wildbilly-887263.23001914052010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... >> >>>> It's a mater of hypocrisy. Can you demand a woman take care of a baby, >>>> when you wouldn't? Should a kid have to face resentful parents, when you >>>> could give the child a good life? If you insist that the child be born, >>>> then you take some responsibility. >>> >> >>>The cornerstone of your whole argument is to completely ignore the concept >>>of personal responsibility. >> >> He just demanded personal responsibility. > >I know, that is my POINT. He demands personal responsibility from people >who oppose abortion. He refuses the concept of personal responsibility when >it comes to a woman who gets pregnant. She is not in anyway responsible for >getting pregnant, but those who would have her bear the child are >responsible for it. Hypocrisy and stupidity blended nicely. > To be fair, not all women are responsible for being pregnant. There is some grey area here. >> >>>To then suggest that someone else needs to be responsible for a child >>>is... well.... let's just put it this way - You are >>>a perfect liberal. >>> >> >> Where did he say that? Seems that you agree here, making you a >> perfect liberal. :-) > >I am a perfect (classic) liberal. > Boy, I'm sure that Bert wants that definition spelled out. :-) BK
From: bknight on 15 May 2010 11:26 On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:42:19 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >There is nothing like a good old fashioned abortion discussion to fully >highlight the complete moral bankruptcy of the left. Not that I am being >critical, some of the funniest things you can read are posts where liberals >bend and contort to try to come up with defenses for abortion. Fun stuff! > That is the main reason that absolutely refuse to discuss it. I also refuse to state that either the left, or the right, is morally bankrupt. That would put me in a position of thinking that I have a moral superiority to either. You really don't enjoy that position Frank. You're painting with a wide brush since all liberals don't disagree with you on abortion. BK
From: BAR on 15 May 2010 12:01 In article <KtxHn.7831$HG1.7401(a)newsfe21.iad>, nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu says... > > > > It's a mater of hypocrisy. Can you demand a woman take care of a baby, > > when you wouldn't? Should a kid have to face resentful parents, when you > > could give the child a good life? If you insist that the child be born, > > then you take some responsibility. > > The cornerstone of your whole argument is to completely ignore the concept > of personal responsibility. To then suggest that someone else needs to be > responsible for a child is... well.... let's just put it this way - You are > a perfect liberal. If it is the woman's decision to either kill or birth the child then it is the woman's responsibility to rasie the child.
From: BAR on 15 May 2010 12:18 In article <1gatu5dn6af942ofhmtpo82di6369qjfmk(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:06:13 -0700, Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> > wrote: > > >When do they become conscious? When are they just a mass of cells? > >What about all the other semen? What about all the wasted eggs of > >menstruation? Who is going to cry for them? Should women have all their > >eggs harvested, and dipped into a vat of redundant semen? > > Before the AMA decided women weren't qualified to make the decision, > abortions were common until the embryo quickened into a fetus. This > happens pretty much as the brain developed. You do realize that the AMA (American Medicla Association) only counts about 17% of all of the licensed medical doctors in the US as members. The AMA is no where near a majority voice of the licensed doctors.
From: BAR on 15 May 2010 12:20
In article <eqatu5ph2tuhjp6k4rl4apmdhksd45he0t(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 22:52:24 -0700, Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> > wrote: > > >Always interesting, that people that are against abortion are always for > >the death penalty, hmmm? > > Not always. What crime has an unborn child commited? What crime has the unborn child been tried. What court of law has ever found an unborn child guility of a crime punishible by death, much less any other sentence. |