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From: John B. on 17 May 2010 15:17 On May 17, 1:41 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > news:MPG.265af63fc9dff1ff989f52(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > > In article <wclark2-7ECF92.22342116052...(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > In article <MPG.265a6ab0bb1b43bf989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <85bkjoFp1...(a)mid.individual.net>, d...(a)remove.ipns.com > > > > says... > > > > > > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:MPG.2659b75cc147c258989f46(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > > > In article <4befea12$0$12163$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 08:18:51 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > > > > > In article > > <4bef658d$0$4863$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 May 2010 20:52:05 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Do you believe killing an embryo is the same as killing an > infant? > > > > > > > > >> No. Embryos are not people. > > > > > > > > > When does life begin? > > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > I hope you never have children. > > > > > > I hope he does. We'll see how his cold view of life survives that > > > > > experience. > > > > > Think of the children. > > > > Life begins when the dog dies and the kids leave home. > > > No kidding, I can count on the kids leaving in 4 years. The dogs are > > another thing, luckily the have beagle blood in them and they may just > > run off and find new homes. > > That's ironic we're on the same timeline. My last one graduates in 4 > winters. She's getting luggage for a graduation present. The dog is 11. > > -Greg My older one just graduated last week, now wants to go to grad school. By the time she's done it will be time for her to take care of us.
From: dene on 17 May 2010 15:33 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:c56bd4d7-0103-4785-81a9-f189980ad99a(a)m21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... On May 17, 1:41 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > news:MPG.265af63fc9dff1ff989f52(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > > In article <wclark2-7ECF92.22342116052...(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > In article <MPG.265a6ab0bb1b43bf989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <85bkjoFp1...(a)mid.individual.net>, d...(a)remove.ipns.com > > > > says... > > > > > > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:MPG.2659b75cc147c258989f46(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > > > In article <4befea12$0$12163$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 08:18:51 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > > > > > In article > > <4bef658d$0$4863$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 May 2010 20:52:05 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Do you believe killing an embryo is the same as killing an > infant? > > > > > > > > >> No. Embryos are not people. > > > > > > > > > When does life begin? > > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > I hope you never have children. > > > > > > I hope he does. We'll see how his cold view of life survives that > > > > > experience. > > > > > Think of the children. > > > > Life begins when the dog dies and the kids leave home. > > > No kidding, I can count on the kids leaving in 4 years. The dogs are > > another thing, luckily the have beagle blood in them and they may just > > run off and find new homes. > > That's ironic we're on the same timeline. My last one graduates in 4 > winters. She's getting luggage for a graduation present. The dog is 11. > > -Greg My older one just graduated last week, now wants to go to grad school. By the time she's done it will be time for her to take care of us. --------------------------------------------------------- Ah. Finally out of the home, you'll be in the "home." -Greg
From: dene on 17 May 2010 17:26 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-6D0388.14121117052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <85dpjjFe1bU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That's quite a stretch from just the one verse. > > > > > > I love how those who depend on a book for their morality will suddenly > > > abandon it when it becomes inconvenient. > > > > Here's the verse, you ignorant twit. "If men who are fighting hit a > > pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious > > injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and > > the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for > > life, eye for eye....." > > > > It's a stretch to use a verse like this to justify abortion, i.e. the > > willful termination of life. Also, the verse implies that the baby survives > > without serious injury. Finally, the Talmud is the interpretation of Old > > Testament scripture. It's opinion. For the Christian, much of the OT is > > superseded by the New Testament, so your assertion that it serves as a basis > > for morality is an ignorant stretch. Nobody is advocating multiple wives > > and concubines, the stoning of false prophets or ignorant trolls like > > yourself. > > It clearly states that the death of a person and the death of a fetus > are not looked upon in the same manner. Really. Cite the part of the verse that clearly says this. > And by "much of the OT" you mean "the parts I don't like", don't you? Look up supersede. > Is the Bible divine and perfect or is it not, Greg? It has divine origin but the final product has errors. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 17 May 2010 17:23 In article <85dqbpFiipU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-6D0388.14121117052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <85dpjjFe1bU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's quite a stretch from just the one verse. > > > > > > > > I love how those who depend on a book for their morality will suddenly > > > > abandon it when it becomes inconvenient. > > > > > > Here's the verse, you ignorant twit. "If men who are fighting hit a > > > pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious > > > injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands > and > > > the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life > for > > > life, eye for eye....." > > > > > > It's a stretch to use a verse like this to justify abortion, i.e. the > > > willful termination of life. Also, the verse implies that the baby > survives > > > without serious injury. Finally, the Talmud is the interpretation of > Old > > > Testament scripture. It's opinion. For the Christian, much of the OT > is > > > superseded by the New Testament, so your assertion that it serves as a > basis > > > for morality is an ignorant stretch. Nobody is advocating multiple > wives > > > and concubines, the stoning of false prophets or ignorant trolls like > > > yourself. > > > > It clearly states that the death of a person and the death of a fetus > > are not looked upon in the same manner. > > Really. Cite the part of the verse that clearly says this. Where it says that causing a miscarriage only carries the penalty of a fine. > > > And by "much of the OT" you mean "the parts I don't like", don't you? > > Look up supersede. > > > Is the Bible divine and perfect or is it not, Greg? > > It has divine origin but the final product has errors. LOL -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 17 May 2010 17:39
"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-483DCD.14233617052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <85dqbpFiipU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-6D0388.14121117052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > In article <85dpjjFe1bU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's quite a stretch from just the one verse. > > > > > > > > > > I love how those who depend on a book for their morality will suddenly > > > > > abandon it when it becomes inconvenient. > > > > > > > > Here's the verse, you ignorant twit. "If men who are fighting hit a > > > > pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious > > > > injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands > > and > > > > the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life > > for > > > > life, eye for eye....." > > Where it says that causing a miscarriage only carries the penalty of a > fine. Cite where it says miscarriage. My perfectly healthy son was born 3 weeks early. Are you asserting that this wasn't possible 7,000 years ago. > > > And by "much of the OT" you mean "the parts I don't like", don't you? > > > > Look up supersede. > > > > > Is the Bible divine and perfect or is it not, Greg? > > > > It has divine origin but the final product has errors. > > LOL I win.....again. -Greg |