Illegal alien rights in the U.S.
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From: Howard Brazee on 18 May 2010 07:44 On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:39:36 -0400, Strabo <strabo(a)flashlight.net> wrote: >This is demonstrated by the Rule of Rights, "A Right is an action >or actions by one individual which do NOT infringe on another >individual's Rights OR place an obligation on that individual." So an inalienable right is one that can't be taken away? But they all can be taken away. Which ones are inalienable and which ones aren't? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: John B. on 18 May 2010 09:36 On May 18, 4:16 am, Strabo <str...(a)flashlight.net> wrote: > Mr.Sandman wrote: > > Strabo wrote: > >> Mr.Sandman wrote: > >>> Strabo the idiot wrote: > > <snipped> > > Incoherent bullshit. That paragraph contradicts the previous one. > > You're still trying to wiggle your way out of this. > > You cannot kill or maim someone for being an illegal migrant. Their > > offense does not rise to the level where you can do that. > > Being in the country without proper documentation is a misdemeanor. > > >> Is this a paradox? Not at all. > > >> 1. Illegal aliens are not at liberty to exercise their unalienable > >> rights because they drew first blood by infringing upon the > >> rights of Americans. > > >> 2. Their status as illegals constitutes a clear and present danger > >> to American life and property. > > >> But you know that. Well, you don't really know it but you suspect > >> there's some significance to "rights." > > >> I'm glad to see so many assume that the US Declaration pertains to > >> non-Americans. Maybe they'll overthrow their governments and do it right > >> next time. But for the time being, documented foreign nationals are > >> subject to treaty and their nation's laws. > > > What a stupid thing to say. All men have inalienable rights, not just > > U.S citizens. > > You cannot enslave anyone even if they are not citizens. > > > > > Try this... > > I'm going to exercise my Right to buy a handgun today. Is our illegal > alien going to exercise his right? No. Because he has no such right. > To exercise such a right would require that someone break the law. > > Technically, no undocumented alien may transact or enter into a legal > contract. The cars, houses, bank accounts, all these things that illegal > aliens have done in recent years, are illegal and those who accommodated > them are guilty of aiding and abetting. They are not guilty of anything. There is no federal law that criminalizes doing business with an illegal alien.
From: Jack Hollis on 18 May 2010 10:35 On Mon, 17 May 2010 17:08:17 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >God also claims to know people after their deaths. Does that make dead >people alive? That's the way it seems on payday at a Federal workplace.
From: Jack Hollis on 18 May 2010 10:42 On Mon, 17 May 2010 19:47:21 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> The Catholic Church has a place called limbo for cases like that. =A0I >> heard a while back that the church reorganized the afterlife, so I'm >> not sure if limbo still exists. =A0In any case, I was just presenting >> the Church's position. =A0I really don't care to defend something that I >> consider to be a total fantasy. > >It's called purgatory, not limbo, and the Church still says everybody >stops there on their way to heaven. How long you stay depends on how >much unabsolved sin you take with you. Some of the more radical >Catholics believe there are ways to get the recently departed out of >purgatory. I don't remember what they are. We're talking about an aborted foetus that has not been baptised. Unles they've changed things, limbo is where that soul would go.
From: Ray Fischer on 18 May 2010 12:32
Strabo <strabo(a)flashlight.net> wrote: >Mr.Sandman wrote: >> Strabo wrote: >>> Mr.Sandman wrote: >>>> Strabo the idiot wrote: >>>> ><snipped> >> Incoherent bullshit. That paragraph contradicts the previous one. > >> You're still trying to wiggle your way out of this. >> You cannot kill or maim someone for being an illegal migrant. Their >> offense does not rise to the level where you can do that. >> Being in the country without proper documentation is a misdemeanor. >>> >>> Is this a paradox? Not at all. >>> >>> 1. Illegal aliens are not at liberty to exercise their unalienable >>> rights because they drew first blood by infringing upon the >>> rights of Americans. >>> >>> 2. Their status as illegals constitutes a clear and present danger >>> to American life and property. >>> >>> But you know that. Well, you don't really know it but you suspect >>> there's some significance to "rights." >>> >>> I'm glad to see so many assume that the US Declaration pertains to >>> non-Americans. Maybe they'll overthrow their governments and do it right >>> next time. But for the time being, documented foreign nationals are >>> subject to treaty and their nation's laws. >> >> What a stupid thing to say. All men have inalienable rights, not just >> U.S citizens. >> You cannot enslave anyone even if they are not citizens. > > > >Try this... > >I'm going to exercise my Right to buy a handgun today. Is our illegal >alien going to exercise his right? No. Because he has no such right. Oooo! Racist fascism! You didn't read the Constitution, did you? -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |