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From: Billy on 18 May 2010 16:27 In article <r0qtu5d2sdfrk840d4uhblij93k3a3s9pf(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:57:10 -0700, Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> > wrote: > > > Who' body is it? > > The mother, or the fetus? At 2 cells? 4 cells? 16 cells? 256 cells?, 65636 cells? 4,294,967,296 cells? Still got a long way to go to get to 100,000,000,000,000 cells and a human being. .004% Can the fetus/baby care for the mother? Give the responsibility to the one who can make the decision. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: Billy on 18 May 2010 16:45 In article <MPG.265893f5922260f7989f37(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <eqatu5ph2tuhjp6k4rl4apmdhksd45he0t(a)4ax.com>, > howard(a)brazee.net says... > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 22:52:24 -0700, Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> > > wrote: > > > > >Always interesting, that people that are against abortion are always for > > >the death penalty, hmmm? > > > > Not always. > > What crime has an unborn child commited? What crime has the unborn child > been tried. What court of law has ever found an unborn child guility of > a crime punishible by death, much less any other sentence. No guilt (might check with your local church on that one though), just the practicality of survival. The woman or the teenage shouldn't, have her choices life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness be curtailed in the state's desire for conformity. I'm not suggesting that we pull little Johnny out of school and shoot him. I'm saying that the potential little Johnny can be gotten rid of when it is still a lump of cells. Harsh? We have already have 6 billion people on this planet, trying to scratch out a living. It was 3 billion, fifty years ago. The planet can't support another 6 billion people in 50 years. What's your idea for reducing humanity back to human levels of population, while keeping everybody happy; war, famine, and pestilence? -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: John B. on 18 May 2010 16:54 On May 18, 10:42 am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2010 19:47:21 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Catholic Church has a place called limbo for cases like that. =A0I > >> heard a while back that the church reorganized the afterlife, so I'm > >> not sure if limbo still exists. =A0In any case, I was just presenting > >> the Church's position. =A0I really don't care to defend something that I > >> consider to be a total fantasy. > > >It's called purgatory, not limbo, and the Church still says everybody > >stops there on their way to heaven. How long you stay depends on how > >much unabsolved sin you take with you. Some of the more radical > >Catholics believe there are ways to get the recently departed out of > >purgatory. I don't remember what they are. > > We're talking about an aborted foetus that has not been baptised. > Unles they've changed things, limbo is where that soul would go. Oh, I see. Seems to me they should go right to heaven. I'd talk to my bishop about it, but a doctrinal changes are too expensive for me.
From: John B. on 18 May 2010 17:03 On May 18, 4:45 pm, Billy <wildbi...(a)withouta.net> wrote: > In article <MPG.265893f5922260f7989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <eqatu5ph2tuhjp6k4rl4apmdhksd45h...(a)4ax.com>, > > how...(a)brazee.net says... > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 22:52:24 -0700, Billy <wildbi...(a)withouta.net> > > > wrote: > > > > >Always interesting, that people that are against abortion are always for > > > >the death penalty, hmmm? > > > > Not always. > > > What crime has an unborn child commited? What crime has the unborn child > > been tried. What court of law has ever found an unborn child guility of > > a crime punishible by death, much less any other sentence. > > No guilt (might check with your local church on that one though), just > the practicality of survival. The woman or the teenage shouldn't, have > her choices life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness be curtailed in > the state's desire for conformity. I'm not suggesting that we pull > little Johnny out of school and shoot him. I'm saying that the potential > little Johnny can be gotten rid of when it is still a lump of cells. > Harsh? > > We have already have 6 billion people on this planet, trying to scratch > out a living. It was 3 billion, fifty years ago. The planet can't > support another 6 billion people in 50 years. What's your idea for > reducing humanity back to human levels of population, while keeping > everybody happy; war, famine, and pestilence? > -- > - Billy > "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the > merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUghttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html What's yours? Encouraging more abortions? I'm pro-choice, but abortion is not the way to head off global over-population. Almost all the population growth going on now is in the developing world where contraceptives (and safe abortions) are not easily gotten, and where women are not allowed to decide how many children to have and when to have them.
From: Billy on 18 May 2010 17:07
In article <MPG.2659ac4ac219a91e989f41(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <8591c3FbssU1(a)mid.individual.net>, dene(a)remove.ipns.com > says... > > > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4bef2683$0$21944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > On Sat, 15 May 2010 15:19:03 -0700, dene wrote: > > > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:4beea1e1$0$4863$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > > >> And anyway, the woman has the right to choose, full stop. > > > > > > > > 200 years ago, men could own slaves. Doesn't make it right. > > > > > > This is what is really going on. You wish to impose your religious > > > values upon others, over-riding their natural sovereignty over > > > their own bodies. Greg, people have the right to make decisions you > > > don't like. > > > > Nice diversion but my views regarding innocent life has nothing to do with > > religion. I could make a claim that your disregard for the unborn has to do > > with atheism.....but that would be silly, wouldn't it? > > It is interesting to that a civilized society will condem a life, unborn > child, to death due to the mothers whims and wishes. But, when a man > commits murder, is tried, found guilty and sentenced to die for the > crime according to the criminal code that the civilized society put in > place there is extreme opposition. > > The argument that it is better to let 10 men fre rather than convict 1 > innocent man. What crime did the unborn child commit to be sentenced to > murder. If the guy gets pregnant, people will understand. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html |