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From: Billy on 20 May 2010 01:31 In article <wclark2-59B08B.21062818052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article > <wildbilly-579909.14291918052010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, > Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote: > > > In article > > <2dcc3d95-441d-40e2-9a3d-2903b7c5270f(a)c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 16, 10:34�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > In article <MPG.265a6ab0bb1b43bf989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <85bkjoFp1...(a)mid.individual.net>, d...(a)remove.ipns.com > > > > > says... > > > > > > > > > > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:MPG.2659b75cc147c258989f46(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > > > > In article <4befea12$0$12163$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 08:18:51 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > <4bef658d$0$4863$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 May 2010 20:52:05 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Do you believe killing an embryo is the same as killing an > > > > > > > > >>> infant? > > > > > > > > > > > > >> No. Embryos are not people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > When does life begin? > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you never have children. > > > > > > > > > > I hope he does. �We'll see how his cold view of life survives that > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > Think of the children. > > > > > > > > Life begins when the dog dies and the kids leave home. > > > > > > Life begins when the grandchildren are born. I'm looking forward to > > > that more than I looked forward to the births of my own kids. > > > > Life should be looking for the beginnings, not the ends "when the dog > > dies and the kids leave home." Man, that is pathetic. > > No more pathetic than your total lack of a sense of humor. Lighten up. Show me something funny, I'll laugh, but pathetic ain't funny. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: Billy on 20 May 2010 01:58 In article <uib6v59iikj3gova6tg0fpidvggshq6t27(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > IMHO, if the embryo or fetus is not a person, I want her to have > complete control. The right to control one's body does not give one > the right to murder. To murder an amorphous mass of cells? -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: Billy on 20 May 2010 02:17 In article <58c5cbe0-5390-4894-83e4-06d6235f2557(a)j27g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 18, 4:45�pm, Billy <wildbi...(a)withouta.net> wrote: > > In article <MPG.265893f5922260f7989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > �BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <eqatu5ph2tuhjp6k4rl4apmdhksd45h...(a)4ax.com>, > > > how...(a)brazee.net says... > > > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 22:52:24 -0700, Billy <wildbi...(a)withouta.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Always interesting, that people that are against abortion are always > > > > >for > > > > >the death penalty, hmmm? > > > > > > Not always. � > > > > > What crime has an unborn child commited? What crime has the unborn child > > > been tried. What court of law has ever found an unborn child guility of > > > a crime punishible by death, much less any other sentence. > > > > No guilt (might check with your local church on that one though), just > > the practicality of survival. The woman or the teenage shouldn't, have > > her choices life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness be curtailed in > > the state's desire for conformity. I'm not suggesting that we pull > > little Johnny out of school and shoot him. I'm saying that the potential > > little Johnny can be gotten rid of when it is still a lump of cells. > > Harsh? > > > > We have already have 6 billion people on this planet, trying to scratch > > out a living. It was 3 billion, fifty years ago. The planet can't > > support another 6 billion people in 50 years. What's your idea for > > reducing humanity back to human levels of population, while keeping > > everybody happy; war, famine, and pestilence? > > -- > > - Billy > > "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the > > merger of state and corporate power." - Benito > > Mussolini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUghttp://www.thirdworldtra > > veler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html > > What's yours? Encouraging more abortions? A very cheap shot. Where did I say I encouraged abortions? I said it is the woman's right to control her own body. You think the two are equivalent? > I'm pro-choice, but abortion > is not the way to head off global over-population. Almost all the > population growth going on now is in the developing world where > contraceptives (and safe abortions) are not easily gotten, Thanks in great measure to "The Worst President Ever" who wouldn't fund health programs where birth control or abortion were permitted. > and where > women are not allowed to decide how many children to have and when to > have them. There was a time in subsistence agriculture, when more children made sense. At 6 billion and growing, it doesn't, but politicians would rather screw the world, and keep their campaign finances intact from the religious right, who expect to go up in a "Rapture" anyway. One child per family, or bonuses for childless couples, and heavy graduated taxes for more than one child. Something has to be done, but our leaders seem to be in the pockets of people who are more worried about this quarters profits, than in the fate of the world. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: Howard Brazee on 20 May 2010 07:45 On Wed, 19 May 2010 22:58:49 -0700, Billy <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote: >> IMHO, if the embryo or fetus is not a person, I want her to have >> complete control. The right to control one's body does not give one >> the right to murder. > >To murder an amorphous mass of cells? Only a person can be murdered. Did you read the first clause I posted above? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: John B. on 20 May 2010 12:37
[snip] > > Good, because Bishop Oscar Romero, Sisters Dorothy Kazel, Maura Clarke, > and Ita Ford, and lay-missionary Jean Donovan deserve to be remembered > for their humanity, and the Administration of Ronald Reagan needs to be > remembered for its depravity, and ruthlessness. Right on. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who remembers these atrocities, perpetrated by a government that the U.S. funded and supported. > > Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion by > Gary Webb, ought to be required reading for every American.http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Alliance-Contras-Cocaine-Explosion/dp/1888... > 32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274334283&sr=1-1 This isn't the book about the CIA selling crack in L.A., is it? That theory has been completely debunked. > > The same guys are still running the store, and as long as we argue about > abortion and illegal aliens, and not the blockage of the enhanced > clean-up liabilities for oil companies, or the weakening of the ban on > Wall St. acting as brokers for most forms of derivatives trades, in the > financial regulation bill, the guys in the store will be happy. > -- > - Billy > "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the > merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUghttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html |