From: John B. on
On May 13, 9:12 pm, Turban Joe Balasootoe <ddca...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 13, 6:47 pm, Strabo <str...(a)flashlight.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > brad herschel wrote:
> > > On May 13, 1:48 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT), "Speeders & Drunk Drivers
>
> > >> are MURDERERS" <beta...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>> On May 13, 6:15 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > >>>> This should clear up one misconception here.
> > >>>> The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says:
> > >>>> ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property
> > >>>> ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
> > >>>> jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.
> > >>>> ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all
> > >>>> ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality.
> > >>>> ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have
> > >>>> ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the
> > >>>> ...right to due process.
> > >>>> BK
> > >>> The first words in the constitution are "We the people of the united
> > >>> states" and that makes it clear the words people or person refer to
> > >>> citizens.  The SC takes their usual bribes from Business and ignores
> > >>> this.
> > >> You're an idiot....and prove it over and over.  Keep it up, we need
> > >> the laughs.
>
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> > > I would take those "rights" from illegal aliens. Americans should have
> > > the right to shoot border crossers at site of invasion, make citizens
> > > arrests, seize assets, etc.
> > > Uncle Suckemoff is totally inept.
>
> > Illegal aliens are foreign nationals illegally in the US. They are
> > quite simply, outlaws.
>
> >  >
>
> > > Brad- Hide quoted text -
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> Legals are even more of a malediction. Here's one running for
> the U.S. Congressional seat in PA's 6th District: Manan Trivedi:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4. Do you agree that any immigration reform bill should:
>
>          a) Contain a meaningful path to citizenship - one that does
> not include overly-punitive fines or a touchback requirement - for law-
> abiding undocumented immigrants currently in the United States;
>
>          b) Ensure that expanded legal permanent immigration, rather
> than expansion of temporary worker programs, serves as the United
> States' primary external answer to workforce shortages; and
>
>          c) Ensure that any non-agricultural temporary worker programs
> maintain current caps on the total number of non-agricultural
> temporary worker visas issued, and also include a meaningful
> prevailing wage requirement keyed to the Service Contract Act and
> Davis-Bacon Act?
>
> "I support all the measures above in a comprehensive immigration
> reform bill. I am the son of immigrants and we are a nation that
> continues to prosper because of the contributions of immigrants.  We
> need to pursue comprehensive immigration reform that assures that
> America continues to attract and retain the best and brightest from
> around the world." (Trivedi)

Right on. I'd vote for him.
From: dene on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2657136beaaf489a989f0c(a)news.giganews.com...
> In article <alangbaker-A1F417.00590114052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> >
> > In article <7n_Gn.6403$mi.2229(a)newsfe01.iad>,
> > "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> >
> > > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > news:l9rnu5dugg77jus2l08hs6ms20udi7bo9h(a)4ax.com...
> > > > This should clear up one misconception here.
> > > >
> > > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or
property
> > > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
> > > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.
> > > >
> > > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all
> > > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality.
> > > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have
> > > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the
> > > > ...right to due process.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is the same constitution wherein we have uncovered a right to
abortion.
> > > We don't take what the constitution actually says literally anymore.
> >
> > Your constitution makes it very clear on the subject of rights that it
> > was never providing a definitive and exhaustive list of all the rights
> > that people possess.
> >
> > >
> > > Glad I had a chance to clear that up.
> >
> > You should try reading and understanding the document before you "clear"
> > anything up about it.
>
> What rights are not codified in the US constitution as the US
> constitution exists today?
>
> If you kill a pregnant mother you can be charged with two murders.
> However, if you kill an unborn child, via abortion, you cannot be
> charged with murder. What is the difference? The unborn child is dead
> either way.
>
> I guess it is ok to kill unborn children because they cannot speak for
> themselves.

The vast majority are victims of convenience.

-Greg


From: dene on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-656F4A.00591414052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <MPG.265643159bd6602a989efa(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <l9rnu5dugg77jus2l08hs6ms20udi7bo9h(a)4ax.com>,
> > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > >
> > > This should clear up one misconception here.
> > >
> > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says:
> > >
> > >
> > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property
> > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
> > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.
> > >
> > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all
> > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality.
> > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have
> > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the
> > > ...right to due process.
> >
> > There are exceptions.
>
> Such as?

The personnel of an invading army.

-Greg


From: John B. on
On May 14, 12:45 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:alangbaker-656F4A.00591414052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <MPG.265643159bd6602a989...(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >  BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <l9rnu5dugg77jus2l08hs6ms20udi7b...(a)4ax.com>,
> > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
>
> > > > This should clear up one misconception here.
>
> > > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says:
>
> > > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property
> > > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
> > > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.
>
> > > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all
> > > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality.
> > > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have
> > > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the
> > > > ...right to due process.
>
> > > There are exceptions.
>
> > Such as?
>
> The personnel of an invading army.
>
> -Greg

I think he's got you there, Alan.
From: bknight on
On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:47:11 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 14, 12:45�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:alangbaker-656F4A.00591414052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > In article <MPG.265643159bd6602a989...(a)news.giganews.com>,
>> > �BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > In article <l9rnu5dugg77jus2l08hs6ms20udi7b...(a)4ax.com>,
>> > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
>>
>> > > > This should clear up one misconception here.
>>
>> > > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says:
>>
>> > > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property
>> > > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
>> > > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.
>>
>> > > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all
>> > > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality.
>> > > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have
>> > > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the
>> > > > ...right to due process.
>>
>> > > There are exceptions.
>>
>> > Such as?
>>
>> The personnel of an invading army.
>>
>> -Greg
>
>I think he's got you there, Alan.

Then outer space aliens too I guess.

BK