From: bknight on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:03:44 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> w >

>Why waste time with2 year olds?
>
>-Greg


I just respond to them.

LOL

BK
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Oct 19, 2:34 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article <osdpd5p99h6dvbm6bpbjfnusfkj40q2...(a)4ax.com>,
>
>
>
>  bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:11:31 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
> > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
>
> > >On Oct 19, 1:01 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> > >state.edu> wrote:
> > >> In article
> > >> <8934936e-f090-4dd9-9841-693d307ef...(a)f10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >>  Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
>
> > >> > Secondly. I heard the same company doled out $4 million to treat a
> > >> > woman with a rare form of breast cancer when they didn't have to. They
> > >> > just comped it to her.
>
> > >> But you don't have a cite for any of these urban legends, do you?
>
> > >Oh, I'm sorry...The Washington Times reported that with respect to
> > >"death panels", in the government plan an "office will be reserved for
> > >people willing to recruit into the government-subsidized health care
> > >system insurance companies that are willing to take money to take
> > >human lives."
>
> > A perfect example of non sequitur Rob. Spin, spin, spin when you have
> > no answer.
>
> >  Now let's have the cite about what you said above.  You know, the $4
> > million dole out.
>
> > BK
>
> Spin, spin spin into incomprehensible gobbledygook.

Yup. No different than the OP for this thread.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Oct 19, 2:33 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <5016fe96-62f9-49b0-873e-0672e8f02...(a)l33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > On Oct 19, 1:01 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> > state.edu> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <8934936e-f090-4dd9-9841-693d307ef...(a)f10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 17, 4:36 pm, The Hammer <GaGolfer2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 17, 12:31 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> > > > > > Guardian life insurance company of America  issued a policy to a
> > > > > > resident of the state of New York with muscular dystrophy.  Their
> > > > > > annual payout to keep him alive is more than a million dollars.
> > > > > > The Washington Times reported that since it would be illegal to cancel
> > > > > > this one person's policy,  Guardian  legally cancelled the whole line
> > > > > > of coverage that insured everybody like him in the state of New York,
> > > > > > which wiped out an entire class of policy holders to avoid paying out
> > > > > > for one person.  
>
> > > > > > The Washington Times also reported that, "in an email one Guardian
> > > > > > life insurance co. executive called high-cost patients such as Mr.
> > > > > > Pearl, 'Dogs' that the company could 'get rid of.' "
>
> > > > > > Guardian's net income for 2008 was $437 million.
>
> > > > > > BK
>
> > > > > This is unfortunate, but the sad reality is that there are only so
> > > > > much financial resources out there.   The goal of a private insurance
> > > > > company is to make a profit,  or meet their costs at the very least,
> > > > > while at the same time please as many policyholders as they can.  The
> > > > > needs of the few are outweighed by the needs of the many.  This is
> > > > > unfortunate, I do not endose this, but that is just the way it is..
>
> > > > > If the government takes over these payments, do you think they will
> > > > > readily assume the annual payment of $1 million + dollars?.  There is
> > > > > not enough money there either, you can only tax people so much, tax
> > > > > the insurance companies  so much, and cut Medicare and reimbursements
> > > > > to physicians.   So, while the insurance company is rationing, the
> > > > > government will find a way to ration also.   There is simply not
> > > > > enough money to go around, and physicians and hospitals will  not do
> > > > > the work for nothing, their overhead is alarming and without revenue
> > > > > they cease to exist.    We are seeing Darwinism in action here, the
> > > > > weak will perish, the strong will survive.  That is very unfortunate,
> > > > > but society does not have unlimited resources to do custodial care as
> > > > > this for millions of patients, they may just have to die.   And while
> > > > > that is very sad, it breaks my heart, that is they way it will
> > > > > probably be.  Because we have a government that has set its
> > > > > priorities.  There is always money it seems to conduct false wars,
> > > > > bail out banks and brokerage houses, bail out failed industries,  give
> > > > > favors to prized political contributors, fund stupid pork projects,
> > > > > and   help foreign nations rebuild their infrastructures, but it seems
> > > > > there is never enough to take care of the weak and sick.  A good
> > > > > example,   New Orleans is still a mess, will remain a mess,   but
> > > > > there is always money to rebuild elsewhere.    This President promised
> > > > > change, he is a bigger liar and panderer than any before when it comes
> > > > > to enabling big business and handing out political favors.  It is sad,
> > > > > but the people who supported Obama the most and bought into this BS
> > > > > line of hope, are the ones at the front of the line to get screwed.
> > > > > Bush was a fool, we now have a bigger fool in place.  He could not
> > > > > care less about the sick and weak, all he cares about is political
> > > > > power.  This has nothing to do with health care,  anyone that buys
> > > > > into anything else is just plain stupid.  And these stupid people will
> > > > > be the first in line to play the victum card when this all passes and
> > > > > they  find themselves taxed to death, and  with less to show for all
> > > > > these taxes.
>
> > > > He caught you hook, line and sinker! Firstly, what would cause DMD to
> > > > cost a million bucks in a year? It's absurd. There is no cure for it.
> > > > All you can do is alleviate the symptoms.
>
> > > > Secondly. I heard the same company doled out $4 million to treat a
> > > > woman with a rare form of breast cancer when they didn't have to. They
> > > > just comped it to her.
>
> > > > I've also heard of many pharmaceutical companies comping expensive
> > > > cancer drugs to people who lack financial resources.
>
> > > But you don't have a cite for any of these urban legends, do you?
>
> > Oh, I'm sorry...The Washington Times reported that with respect to
> > "death panels", in the government plan an "office will be reserved for
> > people willing to recruit into the government-subsidized health care
> > system insurance companies that are willing to take money to take
> > human lives."
>
> OK, you will have to try to put this into some kind of comprehensible
> version of English that the rest of us speak. But I suppose your Moonie
> paper didn't quote any reliable source either, did it?

Read the OP before you speak. I used the same reference as the OP. I
guess you missed that. Have your PSEN gene function
checked...really.....
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Oct 19, 2:28 pm, The Hammer <GaGolfer2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 3:18 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT), The Hammer
>
> > <GaGolfer2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Oct 19, 2:48 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT), The Hammer
>
> > >  I don't have a problem with you at all personally, no one is trying to
> > >personally start a fight with you,  this is about what you wrote.   It
> > >is condemining a company and industry , without telling 90% of the
> > >whole story.
>
> > I'll try again Eric. Get someone with common sense to explain it to
> > you.
>
> > I quoted a newspaper article, and didn't condemn an industry, but one
> > company.  That is 100% of the story. I feel that this specific company
> > was wrong.
>
> >  The fact that you just ignore that I've said that several times and
> > go on to rant about other facets that haven't been discussed is
> > maddening.  
>
> > BK
>
> You don't condemn an industry?
>
> Then please tell us why you entitled your post "Insurance companies
> are there to help us.  Yeah, right."
>
> If you sought to educate us on this one specific example, would it not
> have been better to have had the heading  "An example of a bad
> insurance decsion" or "National insurer cuts benefits unjustly" or
> something like that?
>
> Any rational person would infer from your post that its intent was to
> say that insurance companies really are not there to help us and you
> used a specific example to back up this generality.  You blew it pal,
> sorry.   Take a break please,  go in the backyard and chip a few golf
> balls.

He doesn't offer anything but a few disconnected statements. There is
no reason to accept any cause/effect associating the events he
describes, let alone his reasoning for the presume co-occurrence...of
course there is no evidence of a co-occurrence of the events
either...just a few disjointed statements..ie *SPIN*!

The OP is totally devoid of meaning.
From: bknight on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

>On Oct 19, 2:33�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>state.edu> wrote:
>> In article
>> <5016fe96-62f9-49b0-873e-0672e8f02...(a)l33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

>> > > But you don't have a cite for any of these urban legends, do you?
>>
>> > Oh, I'm sorry...The Washington Times reported that with respect to
>> > "death panels", in the government plan an "office will be reserved for
>> > people willing to recruit into the government-subsidized health care
>> > system insurance companies that are willing to take money to take
>> > human lives."
>>
>> OK, you will have to try to put this into some kind of comprehensible
>> version of English that the rest of us speak. But I suppose your Moonie
>> paper didn't quote any reliable source either, did it?
>
>Read the OP before you speak. I used the same reference as the OP. I
>guess you missed that. Have your PSEN gene function
>checked...really.....

No Rob. The OP cited the Washington Times about the guy wit MD. Your
statement about the $4million gift wasn't in the Times.

BK
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