From: kenpitts on
On Apr 11, 11:43 am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 11, 12:04 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 10:30 am, "vbowen" <vbo...(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > > As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man.  If
> > > it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been
> > > abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more.
>
> > > Subject:  Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama
>
> > > AN INTERESTING READ
> > > Interesting, but read to the bottom.
>
> > > Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper
> > > cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67
> > > Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in
> > > Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph.
>
> > > Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It?
>
> > > For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race
> > > problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have
> > > been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their
> > > difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans
> > > finally going to get over it?
> > > Now I want to ask:
> > > "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with
> > > skin color?
> > > Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes"
> > > should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in
> > > "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of
> > > comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to
> > > John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
> > > Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do
> > > more than "talk the talk."
>
> > > Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once
> > > again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.
>
> > > We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and
> > > United States for some 400 years on this continent.
> > > Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during
> > > the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his
> > > agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any
> > > headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of
> > > presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them,
> > > yes.
> > > Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their
> > > heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator
> > > was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.
>
> > > But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties
> > > again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven
> > > what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is
> > > possible, EVEN electing a black man as president.
> > > But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are
> > > talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama."
> > > Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?"
> > > How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less
> > > the whole world, look like us?
> > > How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this
> > > hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color?
> > > How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white
> > > skin makes us superior?
> > > How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being
> > > demoted to the status of equality with non-whites?
>
> > > How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head
> > > of the line merely because of our white skin?
> > > How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when
> > > they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only
> > > conversations?
>
> > > I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making
> > > racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners?
> > > How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise
> > > personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to
> > > edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the
> > > United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do?
>
> > > How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both
> > > civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red
> > > and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight?
> > > Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect
> > > an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long
> > > enough to see us white people get over our racism problem.
>
> > > But here's my three-point plan:
>
> > > First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves
> > > Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him
> > > and his family from us white people.
>
> > > Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying,
> > > in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President
> > > Obama.
>
> > >  Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the
> > > world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our
> > > damnable color prejudice,
>
> > >   "We HAVE overcome."
> > > **************************************
> > > It takes a Village to protect our President!!!
>
> > >  because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a Black Man,
> > > all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case!  He took over a job that
> > > White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things
> > > out.  They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it
> > > overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political
> > > party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the
> > > success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States.  It
> > > took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going
> > > in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get
> > > "assassinated"??  For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after
> > > being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His
> > > Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the name of
> > > Christianity??
> > > Respectfully,
>
> > > George W. Garrett
> > >   214-497-8747  214-497-8747    214-497-8747  214-497-8747 Cell
>
> > I think it is alarmist. I think it doesn't address the threats and
> > intimidation that are coming from Obama's own camp. I think Manis
> > didn't substantiate one single assassination threat. If he has heard
> > such a thing, it was probably from some Georgia cracker who couldn't
> > spell cat if you spotted him the "c" and the "a". And I think that he
> > would have us, as conservatives, roll over and play dead, allowing
> > Obama to implement anything he pleases.
>
> > Also, I don't think it is fair to portray TEA party members as Klan
> > members. That is about on the same level as portraying all of
> > Hollywood or the ACLU as Communists, through and through. I work with
> > a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like
> > that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough
> > Already.
>
> > Here are some photos from the 912 rally last September in our capitol.
> > Looks like a pretty diverse, well behaved crowd to me.
>
> >http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-...
>
> > Stand by for November. It's going to be great.
>
> > Ken
>
> The only people I hear talking about assassinating Obama are people
> like the author of the article in the OP and Lois Farrakhan. Never
> heard anyone else mention it but left wingers. JMHO, of course, but I
> don't see that most people care about the color of his skin. His
> policies, OTOH, are quite controversial, and should be discussed
> independent of such race bating, but apparently the left cannot resist
> it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks Rob. All the best to you and your family.

Ken
From: Fred K. Gringioni on

"Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote in message
news:38c95666-1c8e-4ab4-9e95-

> The only people I hear talking about assassinating Obama are people
> like the author of the article in the OP and Lois Farrakhan.


I guess that's why the Secret Service saw fit to put him behind bulletproof
glass on Election night eh?

From: R&B on
On 2010-04-11 12:04:17 -0400, kenpitts said:

> On Apr 11, 10:30�am, "vbowen" <vbo...(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>> As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man.�If
>> it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been
>> abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more.
>>
>> Subject: �Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama
>>
>> AN INTERESTING READ
>> Interesting, but read to the bottom.
>>
>> Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper
>> cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67
>> Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State Collegein
>> Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph.
>>
>> Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It?
>>
>> For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race
>> problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have
>> been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their
>> difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans
>> finally going to get over it?
>> Now I want to ask:
>> "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with
>> skin color?
>> Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes"
>> should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in
>> "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of
>> comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to doto
>> John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
>> Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do
>> more than "talk the talk."
>>
>> Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once
>> again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.
>>
>> We white people have controlled political life in the disunited coloniesand
>> United States for some 400 years on this continent.
>> Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during
>> the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his
>> agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any
>> headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of
>> presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them,
>> yes.
>> Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their
>> heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator
>> was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.
>>
>> But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties
>> again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven
>> what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is
>> possible, EVEN electing a black man as president.
>> But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are
>> talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama."
>> Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?"
>> How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less
>> the whole world, look like us?
>> How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this
>> hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color?
>> How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white
>> skin makes us superior?
>> How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being
>> demoted to the status of equality with non-whites?
>>
>> How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head
>> of the line merely because of our white skin?
>> How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when
>> they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only
>> conversations?
>>
>> I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making
>> racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners?
>> How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise
>> personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to
>> edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President ofthe
>> United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do?
>>
>> How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both
>> civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red
>> and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight?
>> Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect
>> an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long
>> enough to see us white people get over our racism problem.
>>
>> But here's my three-point plan:
>>
>> First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves
>> Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him
>> and his family from us white people.
>>
>> Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying,
>> in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President
>> Obama.
>>
>> �Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the
>> world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing ofour
>> damnable color prejudice,
>>
>> � "We HAVE overcome."
>> **************************************
>> It takes a Village to protect our President!!!
>>
>> �because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a BlackMan,
>> all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case! �He took over a jobthat
>> White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things
>> out. �They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it
>> overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political
>> party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the
>> success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States.�It
>> took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going
>> in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get
>> "assassinated"?? �For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after
>> being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His
>> Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the nameof
>> Christianity??
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> George W. Garrett
>> � 214-497-8747 �214-497-8747 � �214-497-8747 �214-497-8747 Cell
>
> I think it is alarmist. I think it doesn't address the threats and
> intimidation that are coming from Obama's own camp. I think Manis
> didn't substantiate one single assassination threat. If he has heard
> such a thing, it was probably from some Georgia cracker who couldn't
> spell cat if you spotted him the "c" and the "a". And I think that he
> would have us, as conservatives, roll over and play dead, allowing
> Obama to implement anything he pleases.

As usual, you've got your thick head in the sand.

There have been numerous reports that the Secret Service has confirmed
a record number of threats to this president.

> Also, I don't think it is fair to portray TEA party members as Klan
> members. That is about on the same level as portraying all of
> Hollywood or the ACLU as Communists, through and through.


In general, I would agree. However, a new study released last week
does point to strong evidence that race is a strong motivation for
about 60 percent of those in the tea party.


> I work with
> a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like
> that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough
> Already.


And those who feel that way have a legitimate argument.

But you have your thick head in the sand if you haven't seen all the
racist signs.


> Here are some photos from the 912 rally last September in our capitol.
> Looks like a pretty diverse, well behaved crowd to me.


Diverse? You mean like ten black people in a crowd of five thousand?
You call that diverse?

How 'bout the pictures of the convention hall floor at the 2008
Republican National Convention. It looked like a goddamn white
supremacist rally. Not a black, hispanic or Asian face in the room
(not counting the people working at the concession stands, of course).


> http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-the-capital/

Stand
>
> by for November. It's going to be great.


Gee, that's really going out on a limb, there, Ken. Historically, the
party out of power ALWAYS picks up seats in the off-year election. No
big surprise there. And I, for one, will be rooting on the tea
partiers, as they should do exactly what Dan Quayle has warned -- split
the Republican vote.

Randy

> Ken


From: MNMikeW on

"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
news:2010041122331717540-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
>
>
> In general, I would agree. However, a new study released last week does
> point to strong evidence that race is a strong motivation for about 60
> percent of those in the tea party.
>
Let's see it. This should be good.

>
>> I work with
>> a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like
>> that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough
>> Already.
>
>
> And those who feel that way have a legitimate argument.
>
> But you have your thick head in the sand if you haven't seen all the
> racist signs.
>
>
Lets see some of them then.



From: John B. on
On Apr 11, 12:43 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 11, 12:04 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 10:30 am, "vbowen" <vbo...(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > > As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man.  If
> > > it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been
> > > abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more.
>
> > > Subject:  Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama
>
> > > AN INTERESTING READ
> > > Interesting, but read to the bottom.
>
> > > Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper
> > > cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67
> > > Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in
> > > Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph.
>
> > > Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It?
>
> > > For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race
> > > problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have
> > > been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their
> > > difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans
> > > finally going to get over it?
> > > Now I want to ask:
> > > "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with
> > > skin color?
> > > Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes"
> > > should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in
> > > "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of
> > > comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to
> > > John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
> > > Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do
> > > more than "talk the talk."
>
> > > Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once
> > > again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.
>
> > > We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and
> > > United States for some 400 years on this continent.
> > > Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during
> > > the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his
> > > agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any
> > > headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of
> > > presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them,
> > > yes.
> > > Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their
> > > heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator
> > > was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.
>
> > > But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties
> > > again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven
> > > what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is
> > > possible, EVEN electing a black man as president.
> > > But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are
> > > talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama."
> > > Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?"
> > > How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less
> > > the whole world, look like us?
> > > How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this
> > > hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color?
> > > How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white
> > > skin makes us superior?
> > > How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being
> > > demoted to the status of equality with non-whites?
>
> > > How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head
> > > of the line merely because of our white skin?
> > > How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when
> > > they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only
> > > conversations?
>
> > > I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making
> > > racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners?
> > > How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise
> > > personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to
> > > edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the
> > > United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do?
>
> > > How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both
> > > civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red
> > > and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight?
> > > Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect
> > > an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long
> > > enough to see us white people get over our racism problem.
>
> > > But here's my three-point plan:
>
> > > First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves
> > > Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him
> > > and his family from us white people.
>
> > > Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying,
> > > in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President
> > > Obama.
>
> > >  Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the
> > > world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our
> > > damnable color prejudice,
>
> > >   "We HAVE overcome."
> > > **************************************
> > > It takes a Village to protect our President!!!
>
> > >  because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a Black Man,
> > > all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case!  He took over a job that
> > > White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things
> > > out.  They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it
> > > overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political
> > > party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the
> > > success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States.  It
> > > took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going
> > > in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get
> > > "assassinated"??  For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after
> > > being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His
> > > Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the name of
> > > Christianity??
> > > Respectfully,
>
> > > George W. Garrett
> > >   214-497-8747  214-497-8747    214-497-8747  214-497-8747 Cell
>
> > I think it is alarmist. I think it doesn't address the threats and
> > intimidation that are coming from Obama's own camp. I think Manis
> > didn't substantiate one single assassination threat. If he has heard
> > such a thing, it was probably from some Georgia cracker who couldn't
> > spell cat if you spotted him the "c" and the "a". And I think that he
> > would have us, as conservatives, roll over and play dead, allowing
> > Obama to implement anything he pleases.
>
> > Also, I don't think it is fair to portray TEA party members as Klan
> > members. That is about on the same level as portraying all of
> > Hollywood or the ACLU as Communists, through and through. I work with
> > a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like
> > that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough
> > Already.
>
> > Here are some photos from the 912 rally last September in our capitol.
> > Looks like a pretty diverse, well behaved crowd to me.
>
> >http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-...
>
> > Stand by for November. It's going to be great.
>
> > Ken
>
> The only people I hear talking about assassinating Obama are people
> like the author of the article in the OP and Lois Farrakhan. Never
> heard anyone else mention it but left wingers. JMHO, of course, but I
> don't see that most people care about the color of his skin. His
> policies, OTOH, are quite controversial, and should be discussed
> independent of such race bating, but apparently the left cannot resist
> it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Please cite some "left-wingers" who have said they'd like to kill the
president.