From: John B. on
On Apr 15, 5:19 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c700c143-2418-461a-ab33-2756e067d7e0(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 2:02 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
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> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:78516a00-8d1f-4ea4-a124-03a8baf99906(a)u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com....
> > On Apr 15, 10:54 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > >news:4bc50040$0$5034$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
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> > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:31 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:b1d3e9da-12ac-4ff1-
> > > >> b4e9-9cd696a4d...(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>> On Apr 13, 2:34 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Straight from crashtheteaparty.org:
>
> > > >>>> "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways
> > > >>>> which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled
> > > >>>> protest
> > > >>>> signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them
> > > >>>> from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them. We
> > > >>>> will also use the inside information that we have gained in order
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> disrupt and derail their plans."
>
> > > >>>> I don't know, to me it looks like that's exactly what the sign man
> > > >>>> did.
>
> > > >>> I doubt that crashtheteaparty is anything more than a website. But
> > > >>> you'll keep trying to depict it as some kind of lynch mob, I'm sure.
>
> > > >> That is exactly what it is. And exactly what I would expect the left
> > > >> to stoop to.
>
> > > > Mike, read the article. It's the work of one loon.
>
> > > It was started by one loon. And he's up to 1000+ friends on Facebook and
> > > over 400 "followers" on Twitter. So the loons are coming out of the
> > > woodwork.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > 1,400 "loons" who don't like the tea party movement. So what? They
> > haven't done anything. If the guy in Oregon does lead people in
> > disrupting tea party rallies (such as the one going on right now in
> > DC) and trying to deprive people of their right to free speech, I will
> > join you in denouncing them. Until then, they are best ignored.
>
> > ===============================================
> > Actually there are several groups like this out there. Would you also
> > denounce their tactic of using idiotic and racist signs and saying idiotic
> > and racist things to smear the Tea-Party? Say these loons do end up doing
> > this. Who do you think is going to get the media coverage?- Hide quoted
> > text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> I certainly would, but the idiotic and racists I've seen were carried
> by tea party people -- like Obama with a Hitler moutache. Or, "Obama's
> a half-breed Muslim." Or, "The zoo has an African lion and the White
> House has a lyin' African." Or, "Hey, Hussein. Go Back to Kenya."
>
> =======================
> And just where exactly did you see these? I don't recall your outrage when
> it was in vogue
> to have Bush with a Hitler moustache. I call BS on the other signs.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I would be offended by a picture of anybody with a Hitler mustache. I
don't remember seeing any of Bush. The other signs are all on the web,
easy to find.
From: John B. on
On Apr 15, 5:37 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9df142a5-6f3b-47d2-b5dc-0c67f744e494(a)b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 2:32 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Apr 15, 2:03 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 15, 1:39 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 10:54 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > > > >news:4bc50040$0$5034$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:31 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > > > >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >> news:b1d3e9da-12ac-4ff1-
> > > > > >> b4e9-9cd696a4d...(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >>> On Apr 13, 2:34 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>> Straight from crashtheteaparty.org:
>
> > > > > >>>> "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in
> > > > > >>>> ways
> > > > > >>>> which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled
> > > > > >>>> protest
> > > > > >>>> signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance
> > > > > >>>> them
> > > > > >>>> from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of
> > > > > >>>> them. We
> > > > > >>>> will also use the inside information that we have gained in
> > > > > >>>> order to
> > > > > >>>> disrupt and derail their plans."
>
> > > > > >>>> I don't know, to me it looks like that's exactly what the sign
> > > > > >>>> man
> > > > > >>>> did.
>
> > > > > >>> I doubt that crashtheteaparty is anything more than a website..
> > > > > >>> But
> > > > > >>>you'll keep trying to depict it as some kind of lynch mob, I'm
> > > > > >>>sure.
>
> > > > > >> That is exactly what it is. And exactly what I would expect the
> > > > > >> left
> > > > > >> to stoop to.
>
> > > > > > Mike, read the article. It's the work of one loon.
>
> > > > > It was started by one loon. And he's up to 1000+ friends on Facebook
> > > > > and
> > > > > over 400 "followers" on Twitter. So the loons are coming out of the
> > > > > woodwork.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > 1,400 "loons" who don't like the tea party movement. So what? They
> > > > haven't done anything. If the guy in Oregon does lead people in
> > > > disrupting tea party rallies (such as the one going on right now in
> > > > DC) and trying to deprive people of their right to free speech, I will
> > > > joinyouin denouncing them. Until then, they are best ignored.- Hide
> > > > quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > Haven't done anything? What has you so convinced (besides your
> > > political ideology) that they haven't been carrying signs with moronic
> > > misspelled messages around and using "racist" epithets?
>
> > Of course one could do the same thing at say global warming rallies,
> > pose as supporters of say cap and trade, misspell signs, make
> > offensive remarks...and they wouldn't really be doing anything...best
> > to just let it go!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Right. All the people who have been carrying racist and otherwise
> offensive signs at tea party rallies are actually liberal plants. You
> people amaze me.
>
> =======================
> It's EXACTLY something the left would do.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

As a member of what you call "the left" I can say I've never heard of
anybody doing that or talking about doing it.
From: BAR on
In article <82onsaFrg3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, MNMiikkew(a)aol.com says...
>
> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-E06CB6.07593514042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <82la6qF56nU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-21D39D.21152913042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>
> >> > > > No, from where I see it, he is simply calling out a coward.
> >> > >
> >> > > Of course you see it that way. You and him are of the same ilk.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Greg
> >> >
> >> > That, of course, should be "you and he" when they are the subject of
> >> > the
> >> > sentence. Sigh.
> >>
> >> Zzzzzzzzzz........
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >
> > Indeed, you clearly did sleep through English language classes. Among
> > others :-)
>
> "God, I'd hat to have to make excuses someone like this."
> -William Clark

I think Billy took an early trip to the faculty lounge that day.
From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:966163d7-0c78-449f-bca4-05b8bf980b9e(a)u31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 5:19 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c700c143-2418-461a-ab33-2756e067d7e0(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 2:02 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:78516a00-8d1f-4ea4-a124-03a8baf99906(a)u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 15, 10:54 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:4bc50040$0$5034$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:31 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:b1d3e9da-12ac-4ff1-
> > > >> b4e9-9cd696a4d...(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>> On Apr 13, 2:34 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Straight from crashtheteaparty.org:
>
> > > >>>> "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in
> > > >>>> ways
> > > >>>> which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled
> > > >>>> protest
> > > >>>> signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance
> > > >>>> them
> > > >>>> from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them.
> > > >>>> We
> > > >>>> will also use the inside information that we have gained in order
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> disrupt and derail their plans."
>
> > > >>>> I don't know, to me it looks like that's exactly what the sign
> > > >>>> man
> > > >>>> did.
>
> > > >>> I doubt that crashtheteaparty is anything more than a website. But
> > > >>> you'll keep trying to depict it as some kind of lynch mob, I'm
> > > >>> sure.
>
> > > >> That is exactly what it is. And exactly what I would expect the
> > > >> left
> > > >> to stoop to.
>
> > > > Mike, read the article. It's the work of one loon.
>
> > > It was started by one loon. And he's up to 1000+ friends on Facebook
> > > and
> > > over 400 "followers" on Twitter. So the loons are coming out of the
> > > woodwork.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > 1,400 "loons" who don't like the tea party movement. So what? They
> > haven't done anything. If the guy in Oregon does lead people in
> > disrupting tea party rallies (such as the one going on right now in
> > DC) and trying to deprive people of their right to free speech, I will
> > join you in denouncing them. Until then, they are best ignored.
>
> > ===============================================
> > Actually there are several groups like this out there. Would you also
> > denounce their tactic of using idiotic and racist signs and saying
> > idiotic
> > and racist things to smear the Tea-Party? Say these loons do end up
> > doing
> > this. Who do you think is going to get the media coverage?- Hide quoted
> > text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I certainly would, but the idiotic and racists I've seen were carried
> by tea party people -- like Obama with a Hitler moutache. Or, "Obama's
> a half-breed Muslim." Or, "The zoo has an African lion and the White
> House has a lyin' African." Or, "Hey, Hussein. Go Back to Kenya."
>
> =======================
> And just where exactly did you see these? I don't recall your outrage when
> it was in vogue
> to have Bush with a Hitler moustache. I call BS on the other signs.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I would be offended by a picture of anybody with a Hitler mustache. I
don't remember seeing any of Bush. The other signs are all on the web,
easy to find.

=====================
The Bush signs are all on the web, easy to find.


From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:69e8eff9-d49a-4e27-9c4c-d52ab369821a(a)u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 5:37 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9df142a5-6f3b-47d2-b5dc-0c67f744e494(a)b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 2:32 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 2:03 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 15, 1:39 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 10:54 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:4bc50040$0$5034$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:31 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > > > >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >> news:b1d3e9da-12ac-4ff1-
> > > > > >> b4e9-9cd696a4d...(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >>> On Apr 13, 2:34 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>> Straight from crashtheteaparty.org:
>
> > > > > >>>> "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in
> > > > > >>>> ways
> > > > > >>>> which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled
> > > > > >>>> protest
> > > > > >>>> signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further
> > > > > >>>> distance
> > > > > >>>> them
> > > > > >>>> from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of
> > > > > >>>> them. We
> > > > > >>>> will also use the inside information that we have gained in
> > > > > >>>> order to
> > > > > >>>> disrupt and derail their plans."
>
> > > > > >>>> I don't know, to me it looks like that's exactly what the
> > > > > >>>> sign
> > > > > >>>> man
> > > > > >>>> did.
>
> > > > > >>> I doubt that crashtheteaparty is anything more than a website.
> > > > > >>> But
> > > > > >>>you'll keep trying to depict it as some kind of lynch mob, I'm
> > > > > >>>sure.
>
> > > > > >> That is exactly what it is. And exactly what I would expect the
> > > > > >> left
> > > > > >> to stoop to.
>
> > > > > > Mike, read the article. It's the work of one loon.
>
> > > > > It was started by one loon. And he's up to 1000+ friends on
> > > > > Facebook
> > > > > and
> > > > > over 400 "followers" on Twitter. So the loons are coming out of
> > > > > the
> > > > > woodwork.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > 1,400 "loons" who don't like the tea party movement. So what? They
> > > > haven't done anything. If the guy in Oregon does lead people in
> > > > disrupting tea party rallies (such as the one going on right now in
> > > > DC) and trying to deprive people of their right to free speech, I
> > > > will
> > > > joinyouin denouncing them. Until then, they are best ignored.- Hide
> > > > quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Haven't done anything? What has you so convinced (besides your
> > > political ideology) that they haven't been carrying signs with moronic
> > > misspelled messages around and using "racist" epithets?
>
> > Of course one could do the same thing at say global warming rallies,
> > pose as supporters of say cap and trade, misspell signs, make
> > offensive remarks...and they wouldn't really be doing anything...best
> > to just let it go!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Right. All the people who have been carrying racist and otherwise
> offensive signs at tea party rallies are actually liberal plants. You
> people amaze me.
>
> =======================
> It's EXACTLY something the left would do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As a member of what you call "the left" I can say I've never heard of
anybody doing that or talking about doing it.

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Of course that means it never happens right.