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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 24 Apr 2010 10:21 On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article > <4c91e34c-d66f-47bd-b604-c0ed9ae5a...(a)j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 23, 1:21 pm, Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> > > wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 11:17 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur Sr > > > > > <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > >On Apr 22, 5:28 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > >> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur Sr > > > > > >> >> Here's the original. Where are the quotes Rob? > > > > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:11:27 GMT, Robert Hamilton <D...(a)att.net> > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > > >> >> There are lots of Jazzs "artists" with big egos, big mouths and no > > > > >> >> talent at all who excrete egregious rubbish, and trumpet their > > > > >> >> great > > > > >> >> "credntials" as some sort of justification for their claim that > > > > >> >> their > > > > >> >> "music" is great. These people have destroyed Jazz. > > > > > >> >> These were your words and you just can't deny it. > > > > > >> >Why would I deny it. I absolutely believe in that and stand by it > > > > >> >100%. > > > > > >> At last. Now, I ask you again as I did in '07; Name some of these > > > > >> jazz artists. You said " lots", so name a few. You couldn't then, > > > > >> and you can't now. You've dug yourself a hole that you can't get out > > > > >> of now. Either put up or shut up. > > > > > >> Please don't be so childish as to use my name. That would further > > > > >> demonstrate your lack of knowledge. I have never made any such > > > > >> justification. > > > > > >Really? What ambitions am I supposed to want to have? > > > > > <clip> > > > > > Trying to name a few of the "lots of Jazzs (sic) "artists" " would be > > > > a start. :-) > > > > > Nice dodge. > > > > > BK > > > > Dodge? I answered your question. You still can't comprehend the > > > writings of others.... > > > > As to this question, a general answer will do. I have *NEVER* met an > > > academic Jazz person who is accepting of the innovations and novel > > > ideas of their students. They are *ALWAYS* hostile. JM experience, I > > > suppose, but I include you in this group.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I am an alumnus of Berklee College of Music, Boston, Mass., a jazz > > school, and I can say in no uncertain terms that your assertion is > > preposterous (for lack of a stronger adjective). The "academic jazz > > persons" who comprised the faculty there were never "hostile" and were > > always "accepting of the innovations and novel ideas of their > > students." Tell us -- what experience do you have that leads you to > > think otherwise? > > He has absolutely none. Zip. > > But that never stops him from posing as an "expert" on any topic, and > then refusing to back down. When have I ever claimed to be an expert on anything I am not expert on...or are you one of those buffoons who thinks that any time you post a view on something you are claiming to be an expert...again, show me where I claim to be an expert on say the history of music, and I am no expert here...but then neither is Knit...or retract your lie.
From: William Clark on 24 Apr 2010 10:45 In article <d7387e3a-ac4e-449c-b2b2-df61d7f325b2(a)c21g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > On Apr 23, 3:06�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > In article > > <4c91e34c-d66f-47bd-b604-c0ed9ae5a...(a)j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > �"John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 1:21�pm, Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> > > > wrote: > > > > On Apr 23, 11:17�am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur Sr > > > > > > > <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > > >On Apr 22, 5:28 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > > >> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur Sr > > > > > > > >> >> Here's the original. Where are the quotes Rob? > > > > > > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:11:27 GMT, Robert Hamilton > > > > > >> >> <D...(a)att.net> > > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > > > > >> >> There are lots of Jazzs "artists" with big egos, big mouths and > > > > > >> >> no > > > > > >> >> talent at all who excrete egregious rubbish, and trumpet their > > > > > >> >> great > > > > > >> >> "credntials" as some sort of justification for their claim that > > > > > >> >> their > > > > > >> >> "music" is great. These people have destroyed Jazz. > > > > > > > >> >> These were your words and you just can't deny it. > > > > > > > >> >Why would I deny it. I absolutely believe in that and stand by it > > > > > >> >100%. > > > > > > > >> At last. Now, I ask you again as I did in '07; Name some of these > > > > > >> jazz artists. You said " lots", so name a few. You couldn't then, > > > > > >> and you can't now. You've dug yourself a hole that you can't get > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> of now. Either put up or shut up. > > > > > > > >> Please don't be so childish as to use my name. That would further > > > > > >> demonstrate your lack of knowledge. I have never made any such > > > > > >> justification. > > > > > > > >Really? What ambitions am I supposed to want to have? > > > > > > > <clip> > > > > > > > Trying to name a few of the "lots of Jazzs (sic) "artists" " would be > > > > > a start. �:-) > > > > > > > Nice dodge. > > > > > > > BK > > > > > > Dodge? I answered your question. You still can't comprehend the > > > > writings of others.... > > > > > > As to this question, a general answer will do. I have *NEVER* met an > > > > academic Jazz person who is accepting of the innovations and novel > > > > ideas of their students. They are *ALWAYS* hostile. JM experience, I > > > > suppose, but I include you in this group.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > I am an alumnus of Berklee College of Music, Boston, Mass., a jazz > > > school, and I can say in no uncertain terms that your assertion is > > > preposterous (for lack of a stronger adjective). The "academic jazz > > > persons" who comprised the faculty there were never "hostile" and were > > > always "accepting of the innovations and novel ideas of their > > > students." Tell us -- what experience do you have that leads you to > > > think otherwise? > > > > He has absolutely none. Zip. > > > > But that never stops him from posing as an "expert" on any topic, and > > then refusing to back down. > > When have I ever claimed to be an expert on anything I am not expert > on...or are you one of those buffoons who thinks that any time you > post a view on something you are claiming to be an expert...again, > show me where I claim to be an expert on say the history of music, and > I am no expert here...but then neither is Knit...or retract your lie. Blah, blah, blah . . . . . How about you just answer the question about which institute of higher learning you now call home?
From: Carbon on 24 Apr 2010 20:40 On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:10:29 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > and my information comes from having read several books on these topics, > which I do out of person interest. So it's a hobby then. Good for you. I also have a hobby: barbeque. Now, where I come from barbeque is a sauce, not a way of cooking, so as you can imagine there has been quite a learning curve. But I care about it and I've improved a lot over the past couple of years. But to be honest about it, I'm pretty average. That said, I would never presume to explain barbeque to the Johnny Trigg's of the world. To my mind, people with that much experience and ability deserve some respect. BK spent many years as a successful musician. Do you think it possible that he might know more about music than you?
From: Moderate on 26 Apr 2010 06:46 Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:10:29 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > > > and my information comes from having read several books on these > > topics, > > which I do out of person interest. > > So it's a hobby then. Good for you. I also have a hobby: barbeque. > Now, > where I come from barbeque is a sauce, not a way of cooking, so as you > can imagine there has been quite a learning curve. But I care about it > and I've improved a lot over the past couple of years. But to be > honest > about it, I'm pretty average. That said, I would never presume to > explain barbeque to the Johnny Trigg's of the world. To my mind, > people > with that much experience and ability deserve some respect. > > BK spent many years as a successful musician. Do you think it possible > that he might know more about music than you? > If I have a chef serves me bad BBQ, I am able to form an opinion that his reputation is undeserved. BK is BS from day til dark. His opinion is nothing more than that.
From: bknight on 26 Apr 2010 07:27
On 26 Apr 2010 10:46:56 GMT, Moderate <sparky@_engineer.com> wrote: >Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:10:29 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: >> >> > and my information comes from having read several books on these >> > topics, >> > which I do out of person interest. >> >> So it's a hobby then. Good for you. I also have a hobby: barbeque. >> Now, >> where I come from barbeque is a sauce, not a way of cooking, so as you >> can imagine there has been quite a learning curve. But I care about it >> and I've improved a lot over the past couple of years. But to be >> honest >> about it, I'm pretty average. That said, I would never presume to >> explain barbeque to the Johnny Trigg's of the world. To my mind, >> people >> with that much experience and ability deserve some respect. >> >> BK spent many years as a successful musician. Do you think it possible >> that he might know more about music than you? >> > >If I have a chef serves me bad BBQ, I am able to form an opinion that >his reputation is undeserved. BK is BS from day til dark. His opinion >is nothing more than that. Wow. This from an IT guy at a company in Fayetteville, AR, that sells elevator buttons, who might be able to discern bad BBQ.... but Mike, just what background do you have in music? About the same as a biology professor in a small Kentucky college? Better yet, do the Horneys know that you spend so much time during working hours on Usenet? LOL BK. |