From: Moderate on

"Vandar" <vandar69(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> kenpitts wrote:
>> On Jul 14, 5:22 pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote:
>>
>>>That is, unless he reverses his position and comes out in favor of
>>>freedom of speech.
>>>
>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fcc-indecency-20100714,0,599591...
>>>
>>>Randy
>>
>>
>> Don't know why you would misrepresent my positions. I am a staunch
>> defender of the Bill of Rights.
>>
>> My position on Tiger and his inappropriate outbursts has always been
>> that (for the good of the game) he should be able to edit himself. You
>> would never see this stuff from the great champions of the past like
>> Jack Nicklaus, Gene Sarazen, Byron Nelson.
>
> Those guys didn't have microphones pointed at them during every shot
> either. We have no idea what they said after an errant shot at a key
> moment in a round.

I think that is the point. Today's players know there is a microphone
pointed at them.


From: Moderate on

"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-07-15 08:15:33 -0400, Vandar said:
>
>> kenpitts wrote:
>>> On Jul 14, 5:22 pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is, unless he reverses his position and comes out in favor of
>>>> freedom of speech.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fcc-indecency-20100714,0,599591...
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't know why you would misrepresent my positions. I am a staunch
>>> defender of the Bill of Rights.
>>>
>>> My position on Tiger and his inappropriate outbursts has always been
>>> that (for the good of the game) he should be able to edit himself. You
>>> would never see this stuff from the great champions of the past like
>>> Jack Nicklaus, Gene Sarazen, Byron Nelson.
>>
>> Those guys didn't have microphones pointed at them during every shot
>> either. We have no idea what they said after an errant shot at a key
>> moment in a round.
>
> Although we do have a pretty good idea, based on all accounts, of the
> colorful language used by one Bobby Jones, who was a known hot-head until
> the final couple of years of his golfing career.
>
> Of course today he's viewed -- and justifiably so -- as one of the game's
> greatest ambassadors of all time.
>
> Randy

At least Tiger doesn't have to worry about being a great ambassador for the
sport.


From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:24:13 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com>
wrote:

>> Those guys didn't have microphones pointed at them during every shot
>> either. We have no idea what they said after an errant shot at a key
>> moment in a round.
>
>I think that is the point. Today's players know there is a microphone
>pointed at them.

The question to ask people who object to such language: Do they
object that the stars use that language, or do they object that that
language is broadcast?

If the language itself is some kind of sin or something, then it
doesn't matter whether the microphone is there. It's still a sin.
But how many people object when their playing companions drop an
f-bomb? Or reading about other celebrities doing it (at least when
they are the celebrities that they like)? If someone you don't like
uses that kind of language, it's an excuse to continue to not like
them.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Moderate on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:24:13 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Those guys didn't have microphones pointed at them during every shot
>>> either. We have no idea what they said after an errant shot at a key
>>> moment in a round.
>>
>>I think that is the point. Today's players know there is a microphone
>>pointed at them.
>
> The question to ask people who object to such language: Do they
> object that the stars use that language, or do they object that that
> language is broadcast?
>
> If the language itself is some kind of sin or something, then it
> doesn't matter whether the microphone is there. It's still a sin.
> But how many people object when their playing companions drop an
> f-bomb? Or reading about other celebrities doing it (at least when
> they are the celebrities that they like)? If someone you don't like
> uses that kind of language, it's an excuse to continue to not like
> them.

I don't care what people do in private conversations, but only a
scatological person would think live television is an appropriate venue for
this type of behavior.


From: Moderate on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:43:39 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I don't care what people do in private conversations, but only a
>>scatological person would think live television is an appropriate venue
>>for
>>this type of behavior.
>
> I'm curious. Why?

If you think it is appropriate we simply have a difference of opinion.


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