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From: kenpitts on 18 Jul 2010 02:18 On Jul 18, 1:15 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <6c391531-9523-47f0-b2b5-af23508e1...(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 12:58 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article > > > <ac58a296-bfe1-44a9-9af4-c779ffe38...(a)l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, > > > > kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 17, 10:25 pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote: > > > > > On 2010-07-17 22:25:34 -0400, Carbon said: > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:50:09 -0500, bknight wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts > > > > > >> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Nobody agrees that Tiger's behavior on the course is bad? > > > > > > >> For Christ's sake Ken. Do you see anyone here agreeing with you? > > > > > >> DROP > > > > > >> IT, or do you like being raked over and over??? > > > > > > > Feeds right into his persecution complex. And also his seething > > > > > > resentment > > > > > > of Tiger's success. > > > > > > Which pre-dates Tiger's success on TOUR. > > > > > > Let's remember how his rants began right after Tiger signed his first > > > > > deal with Nike just before announcing that he was turning pro in '96. > > > > > > Ken has continually shifted his reasoning about why he hates Tiger. > > > > > Like most racists, he's always got an excuse. But one need only go > > > > > back and read his rants about the "ghetto blasters" that Tiger helped > > > > > bring to the golf course (in the form of young black people newly > > > > > interested in golf) to get a clear picture as to why Ken really hates > > > > > Tiger. > > > > > > For the record, I've never actually seen or heard a ghetto blaster on a > > > > > golf course. Have you? > > > > > > Randy > > > > > That was an unfortunate post. But, there is never any forgiveness or > > > > understanding for me around here. Mostly relentless attackers like you > > > > and Baker and cheerleaders who I thought were friends of mine. > > > > > Golfers are golfers. The culture is truly color blind. I was mistaken > > > > more than ten years ago. I was afraid of it becoming hoops light. I > > > > was wrong. Of course, once you get branded as a racist there is no > > > > redemption. Unless you are a Democratic senator from West Virginia. > > > > > My problems with Tiger are/were: the initial contract with Nike before > > > > he ever hit a shot as a pro, his behavior on the course and now his > > > > betrayal of his family. That is it with him. But, there are also the > > > > sycophantic, fawning fans and media. If he had not acted as he has for > > > > the entirity of his career, I would have shut it down about him years > > > > ago. > > > > > That said, the only people who have treated me right down thru the > > > > years without exception around here are Eric Strulowitz, David > > > > Laville, Greg Schoneberg, John Pflum and Rob Hamilton. > > > > > Ken > > > > And I would bet that all of them have at one point or another asked for > > > -- nay, pleaded with -- you to lay of the endless Tiger rants... > > > > -- > > > Alan Baker > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Who started this thread in the manner of a troll? > > > Ken > > How does that address the issue I raised? > > Does your failure to deny what I said make it true? You seem to think so > about the things you say. > > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Knight is the only one who seems to thing that I am not entitled to express my opinions in this forum. Even you don't want to deny me that. Ken
From: Alan Baker on 18 Jul 2010 02:22 In article <6345502b-f98b-44f5-b440-8cd061ec41dc(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, kenpitts <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 18, 1:15�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article > > <6c391531-9523-47f0-b2b5-af23508e1...(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > �kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 12:58�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <ac58a296-bfe1-44a9-9af4-c779ffe38...(a)l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > �kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 17, 10:25�pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 2010-07-17 22:25:34 -0400, Carbon said: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:50:09 -0500, bknight wrote: > > > > > > >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts > > > > > > >> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Nobody agrees that Tiger's behavior on the course is bad? > > > > > > > > >> For Christ's sake Ken. �Do you see anyone here agreeing with > > > > > > >> you? > > > > > > >> DROP > > > > > > >> IT, or do you like being raked over and over??? > > > > > > > > > Feeds right into his persecution complex. And also his seething > > > > > > > resentment > > > > > > > of Tiger's success. > > > > > > > > Which pre-dates Tiger's success on TOUR. > > > > > > > > Let's remember how his rants began right after Tiger signed his > > > > > > first > > > > > > deal with Nike just before announcing that he was turning pro in > > > > > > '96. > > > > > > > > Ken has continually shifted his reasoning about why he hates Tiger. > > > > > > � > > > > > > Like most racists, he's always got an excuse. �But one need only go > > > > > > back and read his rants about the "ghetto blasters" that Tiger > > > > > > helped > > > > > > bring to the golf course (in the form of young black people newly > > > > > > interested in golf) to get a clear picture as to why Ken really > > > > > > hates > > > > > > Tiger. > > > > > > > > For the record, I've never actually seen or heard a ghetto blaster > > > > > > on a > > > > > > golf course. �Have you? > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > That was an unfortunate post. But, there is never any forgiveness or > > > > > understanding for me around here. Mostly relentless attackers like > > > > > you > > > > > and Baker and cheerleaders who I thought were friends of mine. > > > > > > > Golfers are golfers. The culture is truly color blind. I was mistaken > > > > > more than ten years ago. I was afraid of it becoming hoops light. I > > > > > was wrong. Of course, once you get branded as a racist there is no > > > > > redemption. Unless you are a Democratic senator from West Virginia. > > > > > > > My problems with Tiger are/were: the initial contract with Nike > > > > > before > > > > > he ever hit a shot as a pro, his behavior on the course and now his > > > > > betrayal of his family. That is it with him. But, there are also the > > > > > sycophantic, fawning fans and media. If he had not acted as he has > > > > > for > > > > > the entirity of his career, I would have shut it down about him years > > > > > ago. > > > > > > > That said, the only people who have treated me right down thru the > > > > > years without exception around here are Eric Strulowitz, David > > > > > Laville, Greg Schoneberg, John Pflum and Rob Hamilton. > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > And I would bet that all of them have at one point or another asked for > > > > -- nay, pleaded with -- you to lay of the endless Tiger rants... > > > > > > -- > > > > Alan Baker > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Who started this thread in the manner of a troll? > > > > > Ken > > > > How does that address the issue I raised? > > > > Does your failure to deny what I said make it true? You seem to think so > > about the things you say. > > > > -- > > Alan Baker > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Knight is the only one who seems to thing that I am not entitled to > express my opinions in this forum. Even you don't want to deny me > that. Really? Where has he said that? Cite the post (to use your own words). -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: kenpitts on 18 Jul 2010 02:31 On Jul 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <6345502b-f98b-44f5-b440-8cd061ec4...(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 1:15 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article > > > <6c391531-9523-47f0-b2b5-af23508e1...(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, > > > > kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 18, 12:58 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > <ac58a296-bfe1-44a9-9af4-c779ffe38...(a)l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 17, 10:25 pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2010-07-17 22:25:34 -0400, Carbon said: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:50:09 -0500, bknight wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts > > > > > > > >> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Nobody agrees that Tiger's behavior on the course is bad? > > > > > > > > >> For Christ's sake Ken. Do you see anyone here agreeing with > > > > > > > >> you? > > > > > > > >> DROP > > > > > > > >> IT, or do you like being raked over and over??? > > > > > > > > > Feeds right into his persecution complex. And also his seething > > > > > > > > resentment > > > > > > > > of Tiger's success. > > > > > > > > Which pre-dates Tiger's success on TOUR. > > > > > > > > Let's remember how his rants began right after Tiger signed his > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > deal with Nike just before announcing that he was turning pro in > > > > > > > '96. > > > > > > > > Ken has continually shifted his reasoning about why he hates Tiger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like most racists, he's always got an excuse. But one need only go > > > > > > > back and read his rants about the "ghetto blasters" that Tiger > > > > > > > helped > > > > > > > bring to the golf course (in the form of young black people newly > > > > > > > interested in golf) to get a clear picture as to why Ken really > > > > > > > hates > > > > > > > Tiger. > > > > > > > > For the record, I've never actually seen or heard a ghetto blaster > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > golf course. Have you? > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > That was an unfortunate post. But, there is never any forgiveness or > > > > > > understanding for me around here. Mostly relentless attackers like > > > > > > you > > > > > > and Baker and cheerleaders who I thought were friends of mine. > > > > > > > Golfers are golfers. The culture is truly color blind. I was mistaken > > > > > > more than ten years ago. I was afraid of it becoming hoops light. I > > > > > > was wrong. Of course, once you get branded as a racist there is no > > > > > > redemption. Unless you are a Democratic senator from West Virginia. > > > > > > > My problems with Tiger are/were: the initial contract with Nike > > > > > > before > > > > > > he ever hit a shot as a pro, his behavior on the course and now his > > > > > > betrayal of his family. That is it with him. But, there are also the > > > > > > sycophantic, fawning fans and media. If he had not acted as he has > > > > > > for > > > > > > the entirity of his career, I would have shut it down about him years > > > > > > ago. > > > > > > > That said, the only people who have treated me right down thru the > > > > > > years without exception around here are Eric Strulowitz, David > > > > > > Laville, Greg Schoneberg, John Pflum and Rob Hamilton. > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > And I would bet that all of them have at one point or another asked for > > > > > -- nay, pleaded with -- you to lay of the endless Tiger rants... > > > > > > -- > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > > > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Who started this thread in the manner of a troll? > > > > > Ken > > > > How does that address the issue I raised? > > > > Does your failure to deny what I said make it true? You seem to think so > > > about the things you say. > > > > -- > > > Alan Baker > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Knight is the only one who seems to thing that I am not entitled to > > express my opinions in this forum. Even you don't want to deny me > > that. > > Really? Where has he said that? > > Cite the post (to use your own words). > > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I'm not citing anything. It's after 1:00 am. And I have important golf to watch tomorrow. Ken
From: Alan Baker on 18 Jul 2010 02:43 In article <2ca809bb-43bf-4fc9-b77f-29d1b9bf0f6c(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, kenpitts <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 18, 1:22�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article > > <6345502b-f98b-44f5-b440-8cd061ec4...(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > �kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 1:15�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <6c391531-9523-47f0-b2b5-af23508e1...(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > �kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 18, 12:58�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <ac58a296-bfe1-44a9-9af4-c779ffe38...(a)l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 10:25�pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2010-07-17 22:25:34 -0400, Carbon said: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:50:09 -0500, bknight wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts > > > > > > > > >> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> Nobody agrees that Tiger's behavior on the course is bad? > > > > > > > > > > >> For Christ's sake Ken. �Do you see anyone here agreeing with > > > > > > > > >> you? > > > > > > > > >> DROP > > > > > > > > >> IT, or do you like being raked over and over??? > > > > > > > > > > > Feeds right into his persecution complex. And also his > > > > > > > > > seething > > > > > > > > > resentment > > > > > > > > > of Tiger's success. > > > > > > > > > > Which pre-dates Tiger's success on TOUR. > > > > > > > > > > Let's remember how his rants began right after Tiger signed his > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > deal with Nike just before announcing that he was turning pro > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > '96. > > > > > > > > > > Ken has continually shifted his reasoning about why he hates > > > > > > > > Tiger. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > Like most racists, he's always got an excuse. �But one need > > > > > > > > only go > > > > > > > > back and read his rants about the "ghetto blasters" that Tiger > > > > > > > > helped > > > > > > > > bring to the golf course (in the form of young black people > > > > > > > > newly > > > > > > > > interested in golf) to get a clear picture as to why Ken really > > > > > > > > hates > > > > > > > > Tiger. > > > > > > > > > > For the record, I've never actually seen or heard a ghetto > > > > > > > > blaster > > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > golf course. �Have you? > > > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > That was an unfortunate post. But, there is never any forgiveness > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > understanding for me around here. Mostly relentless attackers > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > and Baker and cheerleaders who I thought were friends of mine. > > > > > > > > > Golfers are golfers. The culture is truly color blind. I was > > > > > > > mistaken > > > > > > > more than ten years ago. I was afraid of it becoming hoops light. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > was wrong. Of course, once you get branded as a racist there is > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > redemption. Unless you are a Democratic senator from West > > > > > > > Virginia. > > > > > > > > > My problems with Tiger are/were: the initial contract with Nike > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > he ever hit a shot as a pro, his behavior on the course and now > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > betrayal of his family. That is it with him. But, there are also > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > sycophantic, fawning fans and media. If he had not acted as he > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the entirity of his career, I would have shut it down about him > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > ago. > > > > > > > > > That said, the only people who have treated me right down thru > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > years without exception around here are Eric Strulowitz, David > > > > > > > Laville, Greg Schoneberg, John Pflum and Rob Hamilton. > > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > And I would bet that all of them have at one point or another asked > > > > > > for > > > > > > -- nay, pleaded with -- you to lay of the endless Tiger rants... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Who started this thread in the manner of a troll? > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > How does that address the issue I raised? > > > > > > Does your failure to deny what I said make it true? You seem to think > > > > so > > > > about the things you say. > > > > > > -- > > > > Alan Baker > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Knight is the only one who seems to thing that I am not entitled to > > > express my opinions in this forum. Even you don't want to deny me > > > that. > > > > Really? Where has he said that? > > > > Cite the post (to use your own words). > > > > -- > > Alan Baker > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > I'm not citing anything. It's after 1:00 am. And I have important golf > to watch tomorrow. > > Ken As usual: one set of rules for Ken, another for everyone else! -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on 18 Jul 2010 10:42
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:36:20 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > On Jul 17, 11:30 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:15:41 -0700, kenpitts wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote: >>> >>>> He's lived his life as a fool. So he knows no other way of being. >>> >>> I have a succssful career. My wife and I own three homes. I have >>> friends and family who love me. Who's the fool? >> >> If you think having three homes gives your life meaning, then you are. > > BTW, I am willing to frisch (call off) that bet. Until this year, I > thought you had the best of it and I was planning on having to pay some > time in the next five years. Right now, I think it is a 50-50 > proposition. > > Also, you did not mention the other aspects of my life that I cited. I don't care about the other aspects of your life. I just want you to stop annoying everyone here with these endless rants about Tiger. |