Lapsed handicaps and re-instatement
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From: JPW on 4 Aug 2006 06:24 Sam, I know that you are aware of the passage that I copy below but perhaps others are not. Players responsibility. "13.1 Have one handicap only which shall be allotted and adjusted by his Home Club and, if so required, produce a Handicap Certificate. That handicap shall apply elsewhere including other clubs of which the player is a Member." This could easily be misconstrued but I do think that it is normal in the greatest majority of cases for a home club to be the club where players play most of their competitive golf and thus have their handicap issued there. To have it otherwise puts an amount of responsibility on the player to continually report his away scores. But......... Pat PS. 13.2, which says that a player may select one of many clubs as his Home club, I believe supports your thoughts. > John, > > Could you please point me to the particular regulation/decision that allows > a club to insist that a player have as his home club, the one at which he > plays most of his golf. > >
From: JPW on 4 Aug 2006 06:24 Sam, I know that you are aware of the passage that I copy below but perhaps others are not. Players responsibility. "13.1 Have one handicap only which shall be allotted and adjusted by his Home Club and, if so required, produce a Handicap Certificate. That handicap shall apply elsewhere including other clubs of which the player is a Member." This could easily be misconstrued but I do think that it is normal in the greatest majority of cases for a home club to be the club where players play most of their competitive golf and thus have their handicap issued there. To have it otherwise puts an amount of responsibility on the player to continually report his away scores. But......... Pat PS. 13.2, which says that a player may select one of many clubs as his Home club, I believe supports your thoughts. > John, > > Could you please point me to the particular regulation/decision that allows > a club to insist that a player have as his home club, the one at which he > plays most of his golf. > >
From: John Turner on 4 Aug 2006 17:40 "Sam" <SAMJ(a)WOODhyphenHALLdotDEMONdotCO.dotUK> wrote in message news:easg94$sjg$1$8302bc10(a)news.demon.co.uk... > John, > > Could you please point me to the particular regulation/decision that > allows a club to insist that a player have as his home club, the one at > which he plays most of his golf. > > Thanks > > -- > Sam: > The CONGU Unified Handicapping System, Effective 1st February 2004, published in Ireland and administered in Ireland by the GUI. Section 13 Rights and Obligations of the Player The player shall: 13.1 Have one handicap only which shall be allotted and adjusted by his Home Club and, if so required, produce a Handicap Certificate. That handicap shall apply elsewhere including other clubs of which the player is a Member. Note: In Ireland (GUI) a player's HOME CLUB is the club at which a member plays most of his completive golf. Found on page 22 of the booklet published here. I think it is instructive to note that CONGU is an affiliation of all of the unions, and that the version of the scheme and its rules published by the EGU is not a definitive one. What the GUI does is permitted by CONGU. Reading the book cover to cover there are many situations which have a note starting "In Ireland (GUI), and it is obvious that CONGU has agreed some opt in and opt out situations. In my experience on the handicap committee, players who were members of more than one club, and wished to choose the club which was their Home Club, usually had a motive that involved which club was least likely to closely monitor their away results. However, I must add that with the introduction of the centralised and computerised handicap system here two years or so ago, all away results are automatically recorded at the home club and the process cannot be interfered with by committee members. Cheers John T >
From: Denis Cary on 4 Aug 2006 18:13 "John Laird" <lairdy(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1154680470.195320.314980(a)75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Denis Cary wrote: > >> My point was that a condition of membership was that the handicap be >> held here The question of can the club prevent his home club being >> elsewhere >> does not arise as the person will not be admitted as a member > > My apologies, Denis. I must learn not to read and write to newsgroups > in a rush ! > > In that respect, you are probably right. However, I would think it is > outside the spirit of the CONGU rules. If every club insisted on the > same criteria, no-one could be a member of more than club. My own club > stipulates that a member may not also be a member of another local > club, but is happy with what might be "country" membership. Many > people in my locality have second or holiday homes in Wales and I would > expect many are also members at clubs there, for example. > > -- > "Flirt: A woman who thinks it's every man for herself." > You are, of course correct that the action of a club is outside the spirit of CONGU rules and would be impossible if all clubs applied it but I am sure some do. Such action ,I,expect, is the wish to avoid administrative actions the membership of more than one club requires Denis
From: Kev Nurse on 5 Aug 2006 08:10
Looks like the GUI sets a good standard, then. I'll have a look at the SGU Rules sometime. Kev |