Lapsed handicaps and re-instatement
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From: Neil Wallace on 22 Jul 2006 17:06 Calling all handicap secretaries.... Consider the following scenario..... - a guy joins your club with a handicap of 9 and nominates your club as "home" for handicap purposes. He doesn't play in any competitions for 4 years, so handicap is "lapsed". - said player gets the bug again and puts in 3 ropey cards. If you work out as per Congu the handicap would be 16. clause 18.3 states that "due and full consideration" must be given to previous handicap... so what would you do?
From: John Turner on 23 Jul 2006 17:12 "Neil Wallace" <rowing.golfer@*NOPSAM*virgin.net> wrote in message news:hrwwg.2645$v4.1015(a)newsfe3-win.ntli.net... > Calling all handicap secretaries.... > > Consider the following scenario..... > > - a guy joins your club with a handicap of 9 and nominates your club as > "home" for handicap purposes. He doesn't play in any competitions for 4 > years, so handicap is "lapsed". > - said player gets the bug again and puts in 3 ropey cards. If you work > out as per Congu the handicap would be 16. > > clause 18.3 states that "due and full consideration" must be given to > previous handicap... so what would you do? In Ireland the GUI has elected to enforce this option available under CONGU regulations. "A player's Home Club is the club at which a member plays most of his competitive golf." So we couldn't have accepted his nomination of our club as his Home Club in the first place. Cheers John T When
From: newbryford on 24 Jul 2006 20:33 Neil Wallace wrote: > Calling all handicap secretaries.... > > Consider the following scenario..... > > - a guy joins your club with a handicap of 9 and nominates your club as > "home" for handicap purposes. He doesn't play in any competitions for 4 > years, so handicap is "lapsed". > - said player gets the bug again and puts in 3 ropey cards. If you work out > as per Congu the handicap would be 16. > > clause 18.3 states that "due and full consideration" must be given to > previous handicap... so what would you do? It depends on the local golf union whether his handicap is lapsed or not - see Clause 17.6. In England, there is no such thing as a "lapsed" handicap (according to my interpretation of the EGU Directions - having said that, my EGU directions are a couple years out of date - things may have changed). Personally, I'd give "full and due consideration" and give him a handicap about half-way between old and new -in the above case, I'd allot 11.5 exact, playing 12 (- the .5 is added so that the moment he shoots a good score, his handicap will automatically drop). And then watch him very carefully over the next few competition rounds and not hesitate to call General Play if he shows any sign of playing to 9. If it is obvious that 16 is more realistic, then there's nothing stopping an upward GP change! Cheers, Mick
From: Sam on 3 Aug 2006 05:39 John, Could you please point me to the particular regulation/decision that allows a club to insist that a player have as his home club, the one at which he plays most of his golf. Thanks -- Sam: He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts - for support rather than illumination. "John Turner" <jgturner(a)not.for.use.net> wrote in message news:gDRwg.11787$j7.320210(a)news.indigo.ie... > > "Neil Wallace" <rowing.golfer@*NOPSAM*virgin.net> wrote in message > news:hrwwg.2645$v4.1015(a)newsfe3-win.ntli.net... >> Calling all handicap secretaries.... >> >> Consider the following scenario..... >> >> - a guy joins your club with a handicap of 9 and nominates your club as >> "home" for handicap purposes. He doesn't play in any competitions for 4 >> years, so handicap is "lapsed". >> - said player gets the bug again and puts in 3 ropey cards. If you work >> out as per Congu the handicap would be 16. >> >> clause 18.3 states that "due and full consideration" must be given to >> previous handicap... so what would you do? > In Ireland the GUI has elected to enforce this option available under > CONGU regulations. > > "A player's Home Club is the club at which a member plays most of his > competitive golf." > > So we couldn't have accepted his nomination of our club as his Home Club > in the first place. > > Cheers > > John T > > When >
From: Denis Cary on 3 Aug 2006 09:46
"Sam" <SAMJ(a)WOODhyphenHALLdotDEMONdotCO.dotUK> wrote in message news:easg94$sjg$1$8302bc10(a)news.demon.co.uk... > John, > > Could you please point me to the particular regulation/decision that > allows a club to insist that a player have as his home club, the one at > which he plays most of his golf. > > Thanks > > -- > Sam: > > He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts - for support rather > than illumination. > > Surely a club can make its own rules, one of which could well be that to > be a member the home club must be this one. Denis |