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From: Alan Baker on 6 Dec 2007 00:33
In article
<5bd1910c-87bc-419d-8ae6-13476899e5c8(a)d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Dec 5, 8:40 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <9cb8f05d-ceba-4292-b24e-49f137716...(a)s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > larryrsf <la...(a)delmardata.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 5, 12:04 pm, cja <c...(a)excite.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 5, 1:06 pm, larryrsf <la...(a)delmardata.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > The transition move to the front leg before the arms come down is
> > > > > automatic in the baseball swing-- and very difficult to learn in the
> > > > > golf swing (for late beginners).
> >
> > > > You've used the baseball swing before as an example of the weight
> > > > shift you need in a golf swing, but I don't think it's a good analogy.
> > > > When I played ball I fought a bad habit of too much weight shift to my
> > > > front leg. There's some 'hang back' needed in the baseball swing that
> > > > you don't want in your golf swing.
> >
> > > > > [Your pro] will almost certainly fix your grip--because it MUST
> > > > > be neutral or even weak. A strong grip with the clubface held closed
> > > > > will NOT work. You will hook or even duck hook every ball.
> >
> > > > In the last video I saw of you (pump-n-go drill) your grip was
> > > > incredibly strong. Is your pro helping you fix your grip? I get the
> > > > feeling that a lot of what you post here is regurgitation of what you
> > > > heard at your last lesson; which may not be bad, but you usually don't
> > > > present it as such.
> >
> > > Absolutely correct. When we started working on the supinated wrist
> > > release, that grip would no longer work! I had to go back to an
> > > absolutely neutral, even weak grip like Hogan suggested. That grip
> > > was the first thing he fixed.
> >
> > > BTW, that strong grip is fine at the mid handicap level. It is
> > > actually taught because it works. But the golfer who cannot make the
> > > supinated wrist release is NOT going to hit penetrating shots,
> > > compress the ball at impact. Like "The Jeffersons" on TV a few years
> > > ago, I want to "move on up."
> >
> > > Larry
> >
> > > > - cja
> >
> > Which would be fine, ...
> >
> > ...except for the little fact that you're forever telling everyone
> > you've already moved.
>
> Of course he's moved. Isn't the game of golf, i.e. the pursuit of
> improving one's game, a journey....or in my case, a roller coaster.
>
> -Greg

You really should read before you reply...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
From: Dene on 6 Dec 2007 00:56
On Dec 5, 9:33 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <5bd1910c-87bc-419d-8ae6-13476899e...(a)d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 8:40 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <9cb8f05d-ceba-4292-b24e-49f137716...(a)s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > larryrsf <la...(a)delmardata.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 5, 12:04 pm, cja <c...(a)excite.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 5, 1:06 pm, larryrsf <la...(a)delmardata.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The transition move to the front leg before the arms come down is
> > > > > > automatic in the baseball swing-- and very difficult to learn in the
> > > > > > golf swing (for late beginners).
>
> > > > > You've used the baseball swing before as an example of the weight
> > > > > shift you need in a golf swing, but I don't think it's a good analogy.
> > > > > When I played ball I fought a bad habit of too much weight shift to my
> > > > > front leg. There's some 'hang back' needed in the baseball swing that
> > > > > you don't want in your golf swing.
>
> > > > > > [Your pro] will almost certainly fix your grip--because it MUST
> > > > > > be neutral or even weak. A strong grip with the clubface held closed
> > > > > > will NOT work. You will hook or even duck hook every ball.
>
> > > > > In the last video I saw of you (pump-n-go drill) your grip was
> > > > > incredibly strong. Is your pro helping you fix your grip? I get the
> > > > > feeling that a lot of what you post here is regurgitation of what you
> > > > > heard at your last lesson; which may not be bad, but you usually don't
> > > > > present it as such.
>
> > > > Absolutely correct. When we started working on the supinated wrist
> > > > release, that grip would no longer work! I had to go back to an
> > > > absolutely neutral, even weak grip like Hogan suggested. That grip
> > > > was the first thing he fixed.
>
> > > > BTW, that strong grip is fine at the mid handicap level. It is
> > > > actually taught because it works. But the golfer who cannot make the
> > > > supinated wrist release is NOT going to hit penetrating shots,
> > > > compress the ball at impact. Like "The Jeffersons" on TV a few years
> > > > ago, I want to "move on up."
>
> > > > Larry
>
> > > > > - cja
>
> > > Which would be fine, ...
>
> > > ...except for the little fact that you're forever telling everyone
> > > you've already moved.
>
> > Of course he's moved. Isn't the game of golf, i.e. the pursuit of
> > improving one's game, a journey....or in my case, a roller coaster.
>
> > -Greg
>
> You really should read before you reply...

Likewise, winkie.

-Greg
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