Liberal solution to illegal immigration
in [Golf]
|
Prev: March of the Titans (brief video re: White Race, 1 min, 30sec)
Next: What the heck is Tiger doing?
From: dene on 12 May 2010 02:12 "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0c522f75-0d64-48e8-bac9-92a7bb5e6399(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On May 11, 12:47 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:31:59 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > >My question to John remains. He seems to imply that an illegal should have > >a chance to prove himself. I think not. > > Of course he should. That's what the American justice system is built > on. Otherwise we have a police state....which is just about what > BAR's solution is. > > BK The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. Ken ------------------------------------------------- Bingo. My point exactly. -Greg
From: dene on 12 May 2010 02:15 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be9fa52$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:35:22 -0700, dene wrote: > > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:wclark2-8CAE1E.19521511052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > >> It was always the issue. Once you put a greater police presence on the > >> ground you a) catch the bad guys, and b) drive them out of the area. > >> Incarceration in the US system is proven to be neither a deterrent nor > >> reforming. > > > > Baloney. Incaceration is the hammer to the nail. What good is law > > enforcement if the crooks they catch are released, due to "rehab" or > > overcrowding. Cops care alot about making sure their police work has an > > end to it. My dad's favorite ending was when one bad guy murdered > > another. One's dead....other one is in prison for life. Pretty good > > return for one bullet. > > Then why is the drug problem still so bad? Why is there so much crime? The crime rate is better than before. In the 80's, you feared for your life riding a NYC subway. As for drugs, it's a directly result of the disentigration of our society's moral fiber and family life. -Greg
From: dene on 12 May 2010 02:19 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-7AD9AC.21225011052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > It was always the issue. Once you put a greater police presence on the > > > ground you a) catch the bad guys, and b) drive them out of the area. > > > Incarceration in the US system is proven to be neither a deterrent nor > > > reforming. > > > > Baloney. Incaceration is the hammer to the nail. What good is law > > enforcement if the crooks they catch are released, due to "rehab" or > > overcrowding. Cops care alot about making sure their police work has an end > > to it. My dad's favorite ending was when one bad guy murdered another. > > One's dead....other one is in prison for life. Pretty good return for one > > bullet. > > > > -Greg > > In the US 723 people out of every 100,000 are in prison. In Norway, the > figure is 63. Which is the safer country to live in? > > Thank you - your "case" just fell flat on its face. It depends on whether there are more than 63 who shouldn't be walking the streets. Also, Norway is full of Norwegians. My country is full of all kinds of people. Finally....the 723 deserve three hots and a cot. I'd feel much worse if it were 500 incarcerated, leaving 223 walking around, stealing, raping, abusing drugs, and assaulting people. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 12 May 2010 04:11 In article <0c522f75-0d64-48e8-bac9-92a7bb5e6399(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, kenpitts <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 11, 12:47�pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:31:59 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > >news:m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com... > > >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> >"John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >news:971993e3-6952-4b02-90ad-f3a4ed741a87(a)b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > > >> >On May 11, 7:33 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > >> <clip> > > >> >You've changed your standard from crossing the border to robbing and > > >> >killing after crossing the border. So your argument now is that > > >> >everyone who enters the country illegally should be presumed a thief > > >> >and a murderer and shot before he gets the chance. Right? > > > > >> >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> >A chance to do what? > > > > >> >-Greg > > > > >> C'mon Greg. �That's perfectly clear. �I wouldn't dare ask you, or > > >> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because its > > >> so complicated, , but I will ask you this: > > > > >> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that anyone > > >> crossing our borders illegally should be summarily �killed? > > > > >> That only requires a simple yes or no. > > > > >> BK > > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >I believe I answered the question earlier. > > > > Sorry, I didn't see that.> Bert is wrong about this but at least he has the > > guts to offer a solution. > > > > � Hell, dropping an H bomb on Mexico could be called a solution,to > > consider murder as a solution is more than a stretch. > > > > > I don't believe securing our borders is particularily complicated. �It's > > > a matter of political will. > > > > Since neither party, when in power, has been able to do this there > > must be some complications. �Money is the main culprit. > > > > > > > > >My question to John remains. �He seems to imply that an illegal should > > >have > > >a chance to prove himself. �I think not. > > > > Of course he should. �That's what the American justice system is built > > on. �Otherwise we have a police state....which is just about what > > BAR's solution is. > > > > BK > > > > > > > > - Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals > charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. > > Ken You should read (and comprehend) your own founding documents: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 12 May 2010 04:12
In article <84uuu2F6ghU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:0c522f75-0d64-48e8-bac9-92a7bb5e6399(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On May 11, 12:47 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:31:59 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > > > >My question to John remains. He seems to imply that an illegal should > have > > >a chance to prove himself. I think not. > > > > Of course he should. That's what the American justice system is built > > on. Otherwise we have a police state....which is just about what > > BAR's solution is. > > > > BK > > The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals > charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. > > Ken > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Bingo. My point exactly. > > -Greg "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |