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From: bknight on 12 May 2010 08:51 On Tue, 11 May 2010 23:12:13 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >"kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:0c522f75-0d64-48e8-bac9-92a7bb5e6399(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >On May 11, 12:47 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:31:59 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > >> >My question to John remains. He seems to imply that an illegal should >have >> >a chance to prove himself. I think not. >> >> Of course he should. That's what the American justice system is built >> on. Otherwise we have a police state....which is just about what >> BAR's solution is. >> >> BK > >The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals >charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. > >Ken > >------------------------------------------------- > >Bingo. My point exactly. > >-Greg > Bingo? You might want to rethink that, because you're wrong. BK
From: bknight on 12 May 2010 09:07 On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h89u(a)4ax.com>, >bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> You're a cretin and a fool. > >At leat I am willing to do something about problems. You're willing to do something? Like offer very stupid, asinine, batty, birdbrained, crazy, daffy, daft, dumb, fatuous, foolhardy, harebrained, imbecilic, inane, insane, lunatic, moronic, senseless, silly, squirrelly, thick-witted, unintelligent suggestions to problems that you really don't have the insight to discuss? ON A GOLF NEWSGROUP! BK
From: John B. on 12 May 2010 09:13 On May 12, 8:27 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h...(a)4ax.com>, > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. And, > > >your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to everyone > > >else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the air and say > > >live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what continually > > >gets us in trouble. > > > Your problem, Bert, is that you've established yourself as a loony, > > idiotic, half-baked, fool. You excise those parts of others' posts > > that show these traits and simply go on as you actually have a > > reasonable thought. > > The newsreader I use has a habit of only grabbing part of the previous > content when I click on follow up so I choose to only include the most > recent information. If you want to follow the entire thread then you can > refer to the headers to get the information that you so desperately > seek. > > > The issue is whether or not a person should lose their life over > > simply crossing a border illegally. If you truly believe this you're > > to be pitied. Every simple-minded example you've given has shown > > this. You can't compare a border crossing with someone entering your > > home. One has absolute probabilities of causing bodily harm, the > > other doesn't. However, in your shallow thinking they're the same. > > Tattooing is also a suggestion of yours and you don't even see the > > parallels of this to Germany in the 30s, or maybe you think that was a > > good idea. > > The issue is what is your solution to the illegal immigration problem. > You failure to propose a solution is telling of your desire to not > address the problem. My solution is just a starting point, a point from > one perspective to start the discussion. You fail to participate in the > discussion. > > Propose a solution. Saying the problem is too big and too complicated is > a cop out. > > > You're a cretin and a fool. > > At leat I am willing to do something about problems. Really? What are you willing to do? Go down to the border and kill a few yourself? I bet you'd enjoy that.
From: John B. on 12 May 2010 09:15 On May 12, 8:31 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <q1vju5pd5tu1gocqtt9bej9tmkveenf...(a)4ax.com>, > how...(a)brazee.net says... > > > > > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. And, > > >your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to everyone > > >else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the air and say > > >live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what continually > > >gets us in trouble. > > > Sometimes realizing that there is nothing that will solve things > > completely is the first step in looking for a better way to improve > > things. > > > Whatever political persuasion you have, look at what the other side > > has done to "solve" problems. > > > How many political problems have you actually seen solved around the > > world? > > Going back through history, the last 6000 years to review the recorded > history, you find out that many political problems have been resolved. > > The problem is that most of you are unwilling to acknowledge the > solution. Talk delays the resolution, action resolves the problems > quickly. Are you suggesting that the people in this NG have the power to solve problems?
From: MNMikeW on 12 May 2010 10:59
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be9f5f2$0$18607$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote: >> In article <4be8ade2$0$22444$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>> In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549 >>>> @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >>>>> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border >>>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a >>>>>>> good idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> If you're stupid and barbaric. >>>> >>>> Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes, why? >>> >>> Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with >>> locking doors. >> >> Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars out >> of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and your >> ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of >> whether you agree with the law. > > We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a segment > of the population that is unable to distinguish the difference between > law and morality. They think that all laws are good laws and be > followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous. These people suffer > from a condition called stupidity. You mean like the people who cant tell the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? Those stupid people? |