From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h89u(a)4ax.com>,
> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
>> You're a cretin and a fool.
>
> At leat I am willing to do something about problems.

If your solution is shooting people in the face, then perhaps everyone
would be better off if you weren't.
From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:25:24 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4be9f2aa$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:17:20 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4be8a809$0$16094$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:00:08 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4be78b05$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> This Dobbsian anti-immigration hysteria (THEY'RE SPREADING
>>>>>> LEPROSY!!!) surfaces whenever the Republicans are out of office,
>>>>>> and dies away again when they get back in. All this racism does
>>>>>> wonders for rallying the true believers, but the reality is that
>>>>>> many important industries are dependent on undocumented workers.
>>>>>> Tyson Foods, et al, do not care which party is in power; they
>>>>>> will grease however many palms it takes to ensure that their
>>>>>> cheap labor pool is left alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, my take is that the money does not want immigration reform,
>>>>>> therefore it will not happen. Also, it's very possible that
>>>>>> illegal workers are a net gain to the economy. I have never heard
>>>>>> a coherent argument to the contrary from the right.
>>>>>
>>>>> You refuse to listen.
>>>>
>>>> Of course I listen. I listen to all the empty slogans from the
>>>> anti-immigration ideologues. I listen to their little theories. My
>>>> favorite so far is Bert's suggestion to just shoot illegal aliens.
>>>> Perhaps it could be made into some sort of reality television show.
>>>> You know, like The Running Man. Think of the ratings.
>>>
>>> Umm, the thing you liberals cant seem to grasp is it's not
>>> anti-immigration, it's anti-ILLEGAL immigration.
>>
>> Obviously, everything that is declared illegal is automatically
>> wrong.
>
> You're hopeless.

On the contrary, I think a reality television show based on Bert's idea
would be a ratings bonanza!
From: BAR on
In article <4be9fb52$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:01:18 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <4be8c384$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:21:32 -0700, dene wrote:
> >>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:tbahu5pcbiskjlm6mt2gtrsd7h2po9l1ms(a)4ax.com...
> >>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> >>>> <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction -
> >>>>> and the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down?
> >>>>
> >>>> Total amount? We're guessing. What happened when Prohibition
> >>>> was repealed?
> >>>>
> >>>> The population of abusers will likely be different. We won't
> >>>> have as many problems with criminal gangs. The people working on
> >>>> the problem will be social workers, freeing up police to do other
> >>>> vital work.
> >>>
> >>> A flock of social workers. Just what our society needs. Prison is
> >>> more effective. Cleans up the addicts and makes them think twice
> >>> about using again.
> >>
> >> The US incarcerates a larger percentage of its own citizens than any
> >> other first world country. That war on drugs is gonna be won any year
> >> now!!!
> >
> > It is the ramifications of a society that is based upon individual
> > freedom. I wouldn't have it any other way.
>
> The freedom to have your freedom taken away over petty crimes like pot?

If you don't like it become a citizen and get the law changed. Otherwise
be a nice guest and abide by our laws.

> The so-called WAR ON DRUGS has gone on for decades and has cost billions
> upon billions of dollars. For a drug problem that is worse than in many
> countries with way more permissive laws.

You are free to emmigrate to one of those more permissive countries at
any time. You do not have to live in this backwards country if you don't
want to. But, you chose to stay here so accept the laws and live within
them.

From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:39:57 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4be9f45a$0$19807$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 07:38:28 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4be775b9$0$19254$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:32:04 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
>>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border
>>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a
>>>>>> good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Ken, are you sure you don't want to re-think this one a little bit?
>>>> Bert here is advocating murdering everyone who appears like they
>>>> might be trying to cross the border illegally.
>>>
>>> Carbs, you have it all wrong. There is a definite zone the
>>> deliniates the division between the USA and Mexico. What I advocate
>>> is to start shooting those who cross the division between Mexico and
>>> the USA. There are already laws in Mexico and the USA that make it
>>> illegal to cross in either direction. What I am proposing is
>>> immediate summary judgement. This only needs to be done every once
>>> in a while to remind people of the penalty of commiting the illegal
>>> international act.
>>
>> What is it you expect this idiot xenophobia to accomplish? I mean,
>> aside from blowing billions or trillions of dollars, killing the
>> tourism industry, changing the cost of goods in many industries, and
>> generally doing untold billions of dollars in economic harm?
>
> I am working this issue hard so that you do not have to sit with the
> smelly people in the ER.

I clearly should never have made the smelly crack. I only did it to
appeal to retards like you.
From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:40:48 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4be9f5f2$0$18607$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4be8ade2$0$22444$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>>>> In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549
>>>>> @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>>>>>> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border
>>>>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a
>>>>>>>> good idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good
>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're stupid and barbaric.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes,
>>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with
>>>> locking doors.
>>>
>>> Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars
>>> out of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and
>>> your ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of
>>> whether you agree with the law.
>>
>> We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a
>> segment of the population that is unable to distinguish the
>> difference between law and morality. They think that all laws are
>> good laws and be followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous.
>> These people suffer from a condition called stupidity.
>
> See my previous post.

I saw that. Hence my post.