Liberal solution to illegal immigration
in [Golf]
|
Prev: March of the Titans (brief video re: White Race, 1 min, 30sec)
Next: What the heck is Tiger doing?
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:28 In article <c1a93baa-25df-4744-b08d-3f00e8c59d43 @s29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On May 12, 8:31�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <q1vju5pd5tu1gocqtt9bej9tmkveenf...(a)4ax.com>, > > how...(a)brazee.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > >Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. And, > > > >your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to everyone > > > >else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the air and say > > > >live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what continually > > > >gets us in trouble. > > > > > Sometimes realizing that there is nothing that will solve things > > > completely is the first step in looking for a better way to improve > > > things. > > > > > Whatever political persuasion you have, look at what the other side > > > has done to "solve" problems. > > > > > How many political problems have you actually seen solved around the > > > world? > > > > Going back through history, the last 6000 years to review the recorded > > history, you find out that many political problems have been resolved. > > > > The problem is that most of you are unwilling to acknowledge the > > solution. Talk delays the resolution, action resolves the problems > > quickly. > > Are you suggesting that the people in this NG have the power to solve > problems? Yes.
From: Alan Baker on 12 May 2010 18:29 In article <MPG.2654f5516a36b665989eeb(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <go8mu591jk7ucglolducjuecf4p20dld64(a)4ax.com>, > bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > > On 12 May 2010 21:49:06 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > > >On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:28:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > > >> In article <4be9f994$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > >> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > >>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR wrote: > > >>>> In article <m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com>, > > >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > >>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> A chance to do what? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> C'mon Greg. That's perfectly clear. I wouldn't dare ask you, or > > >>>>> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because > > >>>>> its so complicated, , but I will ask you this: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that > > >>>>> anyone crossing our borders illegally should be summarily killed? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> That only requires a simple yes or no. > > >>>> > > >>>> Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. > > >>>> And, your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to > > >>>> everyone else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the > > >>>> air and say live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what > > >>>> continually gets us in trouble. > > >>> > > >>> And your problem is that you insist on simple answers when there are > > >>> none to be had. > > >> > > >> You don't know if there is a simple answer. You reject all > > >> possibilities except open borders. > > > > > >I did nothing of the kind. I did say that the issue is more complicated > > >than you realize. Which is self-evident if you believe the answer is to > > >murder everyone you think might be trying to cross the border illegally. > > > > Nor have I suggested open borders. Carbs, I don't agree with your > > stance to open them, but certainly am not agreeable to murder. > > > > As for BAR's charges. I do leave this problem to those that will be > > held to fix it. I do not transfer that charge to anyone on this NG, > > and especially Bert. I wouldn't allow him the possibility to make any > > policy about any thing. > > Your abdication of your civil duty is either amazing or sad. The word you're groping for is "civic", Bert. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:32 In article <clark-BBECED.16531312052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > In article <MPG.2653b9f68d912acd989ed9(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-552823.19492411052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal aliens and > > > > > > then > > > > > > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses. > > > > > > > > > > Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them to > > > > > extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't they? > > > > > > > > Do you carry your green card with you at all times. It is US federal > > > > law. > > > > > > So you do think the "camps" are a good idea. What a real charmer. > > > > Become a citizen and then get the law changed. > > When all else fails, use the "foreigners out" hysteria. > > How pathetic. Are you carrying your green card, US Federal law requires that you have it on your person all of the time.
From: Carbon on 12 May 2010 18:34 On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:59:20 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4be9f5f2$0$18607$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4be8ade2$0$22444$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549 >>>>> @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >>>>>> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border >>>>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a >>>>>>>> good idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good >>>>>>> idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're stupid and barbaric. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes, >>>>> why? >>>> >>>> Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with >>>> locking doors. >>> >>> Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars >>> out of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and >>> your ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of >>> whether you agree with the law. >> >> We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a >> segment of the population that is unable to distinguish the >> difference between law and morality. They think that all laws are >> good laws and be followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous. >> These people suffer from a condition called stupidity. > > You mean like the people who cant tell the difference between > immigration and illegal immigration? Those stupid people? I guess I meant more fair-weather free-market capitalists like yourself who choose to forget that workers are going to go where the jobs are, borders or not. It seems ironic that you idologues suddenly forget all about supply and demand and now want the government to step in and blow billions of dollars sealing the Mexican border. Do you believe in free-market capitalism, or not? Do you want a small government, or not?
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:33
In article <clark-100BA7.16465212052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > In article <MPG.2653ba45398c488e989eda(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-8CAE1E.19521511052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > In article <84to04FsbmU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > > > > news:clark-0EE06F.13513011052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > > > > > Increased incarceration rates are one of many factors that have > > > > > > lowered the crime rate. It's not even the principal one. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Name the other factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > Increased investment in policing. Duh. > > > > > > > > Bad guys were being caught. That was never the issue, especially since > > > > most > > > > criminals are pretty dumb. The problem is that they were having their > > > > hands > > > > slapped in the name of probation or parole and released. > > > > > > > > Duh. > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > It was always the issue. Once you put a greater police presence on the > > > ground you a) catch the bad guys, and b) drive them out of the area. > > > Incarceration in the US system is proven to be neither a deterrent nor > > > reforming. > > > > Where do you "b) drive them out of the area" to? Aren't you just making > > them someone else's problem rather than actually fixing the problem? > > No, in many cases you persuade them that conducting illegal business is > no longer worth the risk, so they take early retirement. Criminals don't retire. |