From: William Clark on
In article <alangbaker-7A2C0F.15345412052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:

> In article <MPG.2654f690e8450857989eee(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <clark-BBECED.16531312052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.2653b9f68d912acd989ed9(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <wclark2-552823.19492411052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal aliens
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them to
> > > > > > > extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't
> > > > > > > they?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you carry your green card with you at all times. It is US
> > > > > > federal
> > > > > > law.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you do think the "camps" are a good idea. What a real charmer.
> > > >
> > > > Become a citizen and then get the law changed.
> > >
> > > When all else fails, use the "foreigners out" hysteria.
> > >
> > > How pathetic.
> >
> > Are you carrying your green card, US Federal law requires that you have
> > it on your person all of the time.
>
> As William said, you're pathetic.

Seconded.
From: William Clark on
In article <850rccFcpgU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-7A2C0F.15345412052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <MPG.2654f690e8450857989eee(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <clark-BBECED.16531312052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.2653b9f68d912acd989ed9(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <wclark2-552823.19492411052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal
> aliens
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them
> to
> > > > > > > > extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't
> > > > > > > > they?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you carry your green card with you at all times. It is US
> federal
> > > > > > > law.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you do think the "camps" are a good idea. What a real charmer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Become a citizen and then get the law changed.
> > > >
> > > > When all else fails, use the "foreigners out" hysteria.
> > > >
> > > > How pathetic.
> > >
> > > Are you carrying your green card, US Federal law requires that you have
> > > it on your person all of the time.
> >
> > As William said, you're pathetic.
>
> So saith a pompous professor and a troll.
>
> -Greg

No, so sayeth (note sp.) two people who can see that the emperor really
has no clothes.
From: William Clark on
In article <4beb28c9$0$18672$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:25:24 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:4be9f2aa$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:17:20 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4be8a809$0$16094$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:00:08 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> >>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:4be78b05$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This Dobbsian anti-immigration hysteria (THEY'RE SPREADING
> >>>>>> LEPROSY!!!) surfaces whenever the Republicans are out of office,
> >>>>>> and dies away again when they get back in. All this racism does
> >>>>>> wonders for rallying the true believers, but the reality is that
> >>>>>> many important industries are dependent on undocumented workers.
> >>>>>> Tyson Foods, et al, do not care which party is in power; they
> >>>>>> will grease however many palms it takes to ensure that their
> >>>>>> cheap labor pool is left alone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, my take is that the money does not want immigration reform,
> >>>>>> therefore it will not happen. Also, it's very possible that
> >>>>>> illegal workers are a net gain to the economy. I have never heard
> >>>>>> a coherent argument to the contrary from the right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You refuse to listen.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course I listen. I listen to all the empty slogans from the
> >>>> anti-immigration ideologues. I listen to their little theories. My
> >>>> favorite so far is Bert's suggestion to just shoot illegal aliens.
> >>>> Perhaps it could be made into some sort of reality television show.
> >>>> You know, like The Running Man. Think of the ratings.
> >>>
> >>> Umm, the thing you liberals cant seem to grasp is it's not
> >>> anti-immigration, it's anti-ILLEGAL immigration.
> >>
> >> Obviously, everything that is declared illegal is automatically
> >> wrong.
> >
> > You're hopeless.
>
> On the contrary, I think a reality television show based on Bert's idea
> would be a ratings bonanza!

Yes, something like "Jackass" meets "Dumb and Dumber".
From: Jack Hollis on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:54:31 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 10, 8:20=A0pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
>>
>> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction - and
>> >the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down?
>>
>> The many problems imposed on society by drugs being illegal will go
>> down.
>
>Those problems include violent crime, disease, poverty, prostitution,
>child abuse and neglect, homelessness. Why would legalizing drugs
>cause them to diminish?

I have no doubt that legalizing drugs would reduce violent crime
significantly. It would reduce those diseases associated with people
sharing needles like HIV and hepatitis. It would probably reduce
homelessness a bit. Prostitution would stay about the same but women
would no longer have to sell themselves to pay for their drug habits.
Children of addicts would also benefit because their parent's would no
longer be in jail and have to steal to buy drugs.

What people fail to understand is that most of the negative things
associated with drug abuse are the result of drugs being illegal, not
the drugs themselves.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.2654f5516a36b665989eeb(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <go8mu591jk7ucglolducjuecf4p20dld64(a)4ax.com>,
> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >
> > On 12 May 2010 21:49:06 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:28:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > >> In article <4be9f994$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > >> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > >>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > >>>> In article <m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com>,
> > >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > >>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> A chance to do what?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> C'mon Greg. That's perfectly clear. I wouldn't dare ask you, or
> > >>>>> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because
> > >>>>> its so complicated, , but I will ask you this:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that
> > >>>>> anyone crossing our borders illegally should be summarily killed?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> That only requires a simple yes or no.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems.
> > >>>> And, your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to
> > >>>> everyone else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the
> > >>>> air and say live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what
> > >>>> continually gets us in trouble.
> > >>>
> > >>> And your problem is that you insist on simple answers when there are
> > >>> none to be had.
> > >>
> > >> You don't know if there is a simple answer. You reject all
> > >> possibilities except open borders.
> > >
> > >I did nothing of the kind. I did say that the issue is more complicated
> > >than you realize. Which is self-evident if you believe the answer is to
> > >murder everyone you think might be trying to cross the border illegally.
> >
> > Nor have I suggested open borders. Carbs, I don't agree with your
> > stance to open them, but certainly am not agreeable to murder.
> >
> > As for BAR's charges. I do leave this problem to those that will be
> > held to fix it. I do not transfer that charge to anyone on this NG,
> > and especially Bert. I wouldn't allow him the possibility to make any
> > policy about any thing.
>
> Your abdication of your civil duty is either amazing or sad.

Bertie, old dear, it's "civic" duty. Please try harder.