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From: John B. on 13 May 2010 17:20 On May 12, 7:33 pm, Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote: > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:37:55 -0700, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > >wrote: > > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>news:h68lu5l936kdfm35fe0fgtlht8ncgubspd(a)4ax.com... > > - Show quoted text - > > >>> >The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals > >>> >charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. > > >>> Wrong, and that seems to have become usual for you about this. America > >>> is not a police state and everyone that is arrested here is given a > >>> fair trial. That is a right that is afforded every human being in the > >>> U.S. > > >>> BK > > >>An illegal criminal has a right to a fair trial. If found innocent, then > >>deportation. All illegals have the right for swift but humane deportation. > > >>-Greg > > >but you said "Bingo to this statement: > >>> >The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals > >>> >charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo. > > >>> >Ken > > >Why would you agree with it, then post the above...which is true? > > **************** > > I think you're all confused to some degree. > > If the person is charged with illegal entry only, they are NOT sent to > trial... they are turned over to U.S. Customs and get a "hearing," > which is totally different from a trial. The normal result is > deportation. > > If they commit some other crime and are caught, they go to trial, > resulting in deportation or prison, usually dependent upon the > severity of the crime. Unfortunately, deportation does little to > exacerbate the situation... there are some who have been deported a > dozen times and returned illegally. > > I live in Arizona and probably understand the situation a bit better > than most of you who speak as experts and display your "holier than > thou" personalities. It's a condition brought about by the inaction of > the Federal Government... mainly Congressmen from YOUR state, who do > not have to confront the problem on a regular basis. > > Get a copy of the law and read it... if interested, Google S.B. 1070 > and learn something! Then you might have some comprehension of what > you're talking about... then you might agree with me, or... maybe not! > > -- >I don't know whether I agree with you or not because I don't know what your position is. But since you live in Arizona, maybe you have some insight to what local law enforcement authorities are going to do with the people they arrest for illegal entry. They can't prosecute them. They can't deport them.
From: John B. on 13 May 2010 17:27 On May 12, 8:06 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:54:31 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >On May 10, 8:20=A0pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > >> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction - and > >> >the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down? > > >> The many problems imposed on society by drugs being illegal will go > >> down. > > >Those problems include violent crime, disease, poverty, prostitution, > >child abuse and neglect, homelessness. Why would legalizing drugs > >cause them to diminish? > > I have no doubt that legalizing drugs would reduce violent crime > significantly. It would reduce those diseases associated with people > sharing needles like HIV and hepatitis. It would probably reduce > homelessness a bit. Prostitution would stay about the same but women > would no longer have to sell themselves to pay for their drug habits. > Children of addicts would also benefit because their parent's would no > longer be in jail and have to steal to buy drugs. > What people fail to understand is that most of the negative things > associated with drug abuse are the result of drugs being illegal, not > the drugs themselves. You have yet to explain how or why legalizing drugs would have any of these effects. Legal or illegal, people still have to pay for them. And why are children of drug addicts better off having their parents at home? Do you think junkies make good parents?
From: John B. on 13 May 2010 17:30 On May 13, 10:58 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 09:35:04 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > > > >Not everyone is against Arizona Loundon. > > I'll say. Around 65% back the new law. However, some of the biggest > critics are Arizonians. > > Interesting article: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37021347/ns/us_news-life/ > > BK 80% in a poll reported today.
From: BAR on 13 May 2010 17:51 In article <4beb3a83$0$19048$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <4be9fb52$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > >> The so-called WAR ON DRUGS has gone on for decades and has cost > >> billions upon billions of dollars. For a drug problem that is worse > >> than in many countries with way more permissive laws. > > > > You are free to emmigrate to one of those more permissive countries at > > any time. You do not have to live in this backwards country if you > > don't want to. But, you chose to stay here so accept the laws and live > > within them. > > Can't think of anything to say exept for the same couple of platitudes, > eh Bert? It's all about choices. You just don't want people to make their own choice.
From: BAR on 13 May 2010 17:56
In article <1bpnu59gbd8k42u6pecmpfl8skp1upqfua(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 21:19:29 -0700, Loudon Briggs <larebe(a)bbz.net> > wrote: > > >If the exact same illegal entry problem were happening at common > >border crossings with Canada, in Washington, or Maine, or Minnesota, > >and similar states, the offenders would more likely be Canadians, > >British, Irish, French, Balkan countries, or some other similar area. > > Most of the illegal immigrants crossing the Canadian border are > Asians. Why does the ethnic origin matter. Illegal is illegal. |