From: BAR on
In article <4bec86f5$0$4870$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:03:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <363c5786-7a94-41bc-9a6e-
> > 43633cdfd6bb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You're a cretin and a fool.
> >>>>
> >>>>> At leat I am willing to do something about problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? What are you willing to do? Go down to the border and kill
> >>>> a few yourself? I bet you'd enjoy that.
> >>>
> >>> I am willing to start talking about the problem and offering ideas
> >>> and solutions. Something your are ill equiped to do.
> >>
> >> The "ideas and solutions" you've offered are disgusting and
> >> reprehensible. I would no sooner try to have an intelligent debate
> >> with you than with Idi Amin.
> >
> > Your solution to grant amnesty is disgusting and reprehensible. It
> > didn't work last time and won't work this time.
>
> Earth to Bert. No one suggested amnesty. Please learn to read.

Then you are in agreement that all illegal aliens should be repatriated
with their country of origin.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:22:20 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4bec8675$0$4870$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:01:45 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <08aa20a5-5d71-4a75-b127-d34cdbb5e645
>>> @a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>>>> On May 12, 5:55 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:24:29 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4be9f0e7$0$19807$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is NO WAY that all these undocumented workers are doing
>>>>>>> enough damage to the country to justify the cost of hunting them
>>>>>>> down and getting rid of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell that to Arizona.
>>>>>
>>>>> They're certainly going to spend a lot of money with their new
>>>>> pogrom.
>>>>
>>>> They sure are. What are they going to do with the people they
>>>> arrest under the new law? Drive them to the ICE Field Office in
>>>> Phoenix and dump them there? Arizona is a huge state. Or will they
>>>> call the ICE office and demand that they come and get them, then
>>>> hold them for a week or more until someone from ICE can take an
>>>> entire day out of his schedule to go pick them up? The AZ law
>>>> doesn't give local jurisdictions authority to deport illegal aliens
>>>> - only to arrest them.
>>>
>>> The law is having its intended effect.
>>
>> Which effect is that? Wasting money?
>
> For some who claims to be of superior intelligence you have no common
> sense, street smarts or political savvy.

I never claimed superior intelligence. That would be your friend
immoderate. Nor did I claim any of those other attribute which you also
lack. I merely claimed that mass murder is a demented, ridiculous answer
to the immigration problem.
From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:26:48 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4beb2457$0$4865$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
>> > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h89u(a)4ax.com>,
>> > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>> >
>> >> You're a cretin and a fool.
>> >
>> > At leat I am willing to do something about problems.
>>
>> If your solution is shooting people in the face, then perhaps everyone
>> would be better off if you weren't.
>
> You have to start the discussion somewhere. I chose to start it at an
> extreme.

Oh I see. You propose something so mindbendingly stupid that every other
solution looks brilliant.
From: BAR on
In article <4bec88af$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:03:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <3b97b232-6f8e-4426-9fc2-599fa76f6665
> > @k42g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >> On May 12, 6:26�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <4beb2457$0$4865$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> >>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>>>> In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h...(a)4ax.com>,
> >>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You're a cretin and a fool.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At least I am willing to do something about problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> If your solution is shooting people in the face, then perhaps
> >>>> everyone would be better off if you weren't.
> >>>
> >>> You have to start the discussion somewhere. I chose to start it at
> >>> an extreme.
> >>
> >> Trying to decouple ourselves from our own despicable remarks, are we?
> >> You didn't really mean that people should be killed for crossing the
> >> border, you were just trying to start a discussion, right?
> >>
> >> Good luck with that, pal. You didn't start this discussion. Someone
> >> else did.
> >
> > Propose a solution.
>
> I propose the solution that industry lobbyists will require your own
> party to back. Leave things largely as they are. If undocumented workers
> are still willing to work 70 hour weeks for $2.50 an hour at jobs that
> American's refuse to do, let them. Let them pay for benefits they are
> not legally entitled to receive.
>
> If you honestly can't see that this is a better solution than mass
> murder, then you're even dumber than I thought.

First you need to get the terminology correct, they are illegal aliens,
not undocumented workers.

Leaving things as they are is in effect amnesty.

We have programs for legal immigraiton and for temporary workers.

Mass deportation should be used for all persons in the USA illegally.
Especially those who overstay their visas.


From: BAR on
In article <2010051318202741171-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>,
none_of_your_business(a)all.com says...
>
> > But the way this law is being painted by the left you'd think this law
> > does exactly that. Allows for the police to profile at will. This is
> > not the case at all. In fact it was modified to make sure it was more
> > than clear.
>
>
> Describe for me what some who is "illegally here" looks like.

Look in the mirror.