From: BAR on
In article <alangbaker-201299.01450114052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>
> In article <MPG.26564053374fa0c7989ef4(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <sfjmu5h5ebhlmmtja8mpno8a503sr375gt(a)4ax.com>,
> > howard(a)brazee.net says...
> > >
> > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:33:27 -0700, Loudon Briggs <larebe(a)bbz.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >If the person is charged with illegal entry only, they are NOT sent to
> > > >trial... they are turned over to U.S. Customs and get a "hearing,"
> > > >which is totally different from a trial. The normal result is
> > > >deportation.
> > >
> > > What if the person is innocent?
> >
> > Any non-citizen of the US who is here legally is required to have proof
> > of their authority to be in the US on their person at all times. This is
> > a federal law and a condition of their entry into the US.
> >
> > Therefore, there can be no innocence.
>
> Cite the actual law...

Sorry, Canada Boy, I'm not interested in playing your game.

From: BAR on
In article <alangbaker-FCCA0B.01273814052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>
> In article <MPG.2656547f6fa23213989efe(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <aa7f0e4a-180d-4494-bc15-6430927db7d3
> > @h9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> > >
> > > On May 13, 6:01�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <08aa20a5-5d71-4a75-b127-d34cdbb5e645
> > > > @a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On May 12, 5:55�pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:24:29 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:4be9f0e7$0$19807$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > > >
> > > > > > >> There is NO WAY that all these undocumented workers are doing
> > > > > > >> enough
> > > > > > >> damage to the country to justify the cost of hunting them down and
> > > > > > >> getting rid of them.
> > > >
> > > > > > > Tell that to Arizona.
> > > >
> > > > > > They're certainly going to spend a lot of money with their new
> > > > > > pogrom.
> > > >
> > > > > They sure are. What are they going to do with the people they arrest
> > > > > under the new law? Drive them to the ICE Field Office in Phoenix and
> > > > > dump them there? Arizona is a huge state. Or will they call the ICE
> > > > > office and demand that they come and get them, then hold them for a
> > > > > week or more until someone from ICE can take an entire day out of his
> > > > > schedule to go pick them up? The AZ law doesn't give local
> > > > > jurisdictions authority to deport illegal aliens - only to arrest
> > > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > The law is having its intended effect.
> > >
> > > How do you know? They just passed the goddamn thing.
> >
> > Can't think past your rage.
>
> Can't articulate your evidence for claim?

Your brain surgeons can't see that the issues is now front and center in
the US and it is being talked about and hopefully the federal government
will actually perform its duty and protect the citizens of the US from
these foreign invaders that are causing harm to the US.

Sometimes you need a cattle prod to get the fat lazy cow, federal
government, moving in the direction that the citizens of the US want it
to go.



From: BAR on
In article <4bec8dfe$0$4883$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:28:41 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <4bec86f5$0$4870$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:03:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> In article <363c5786-7a94-41bc-9a6e-
> >>> 43633cdfd6bb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com
> >>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> At leat I am willing to do something about problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Really? What are you willing to do? Go down to the border and
> >>>>>> kill a few yourself? I bet you'd enjoy that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am willing to start talking about the problem and offering ideas
> >>>>> and solutions. Something your are ill equiped to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> The "ideas and solutions" you've offered are disgusting and
> >>>> reprehensible. I would no sooner try to have an intelligent debate
> >>>> with you than with Idi Amin.
> >>>
> >>> Your solution to grant amnesty is disgusting and reprehensible. It
> >>> didn't work last time and won't work this time.
> >>
> >> Earth to Bert. No one suggested amnesty. Please learn to read.
> >
> > Then you are in agreement that all illegal aliens should be
> > repatriated with their country of origin.
>
> Everyone, meet Bert. See above, where Bert demonstrates that he is
> incapable of any sort of mental subtlety. How sad for Bert.

What's the matter Carb's you don't like your own methods being used
against you.

From: BAR on
In article <4bec8a2d$0$4880$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:20:27 -0400, R&B wrote:
> > On 2010-05-11 12:25:04 -0400, MNMikeW said:
> >> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2010051023553696677-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >>> On 2010-05-10 13:25:58 -0400, MNMikeW said:
> >>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:2010050723254273798-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >>>>
> >>>>> For you to mindlessly assert that such things don't happen only
> >>>>> shows your own ignorance -- or stubborn insistence on keeping your
> >>>>> head stuck firmly in the sand (or elsewhere just as dark).
> >>>>
> >>>> I never said they never happen. But for you to mindlessly assert
> >>>> that this will be the norm only shows your ignorance.
> >>>
> >>> I never said it was the norm.
> >>>
> >>> You said, "Riiiiiiight," as if to suggest it hardly ever happens.
> >>>
> >>> It happens with surprising regularity. Somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> To assert otherwise is a lie.
> >>
> >> But the way this law is being painted by the left you'd think this
> >> law does exactly that. Allows for the police to profile at will. This
> >> is not the case at all. In fact it was modified to make sure it was
> >> more than clear.
> >
> > Describe for me what some who is "illegally here" looks like.
>
> Anyone who looks Hispanic.

Anyone who looks Canadian.


From: BAR on
In article <4bec8e9a$0$4865$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> I propose the solution that industry lobbyists will require your own
> >> party to back. Leave things largely as they are. If undocumented
> >> workers are still willing to work 70 hour weeks for $2.50 an hour at
> >> jobs that American's refuse to do, let them. Let them pay for
> >> benefits they are not legally entitled to receive.
> >>
> >> If you honestly can't see that this is a better solution than mass
> >> murder, then you're even dumber than I thought.
> >
> > First you need to get the terminology correct, they are illegal
> > aliens, not undocumented workers.
> >
> > Leaving things as they are is in effect amnesty.
> >
> > We have programs for legal immigraiton and for temporary workers.
> >
> > Mass deportation should be used for all persons in the USA illegally.
> > Especially those who overstay their visas.
>
> I win.
>
>

You win a free trip back to Canada for overstaying your visa. Please
turn yourself in at the US ICE office closest to your immediately.