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From: Howard Brazee on 14 May 2010 18:14 On Fri, 14 May 2010 11:35:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >So the intended effect of an outrageous law is to get people talking >about the problem? That's your claim? There are a lot of political "solutions" that do less. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 14 May 2010 18:18 On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:46 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> US constitution begs to differ. > >Not according to the Obama Administration. Just about all presidents believe them to be above the Constitution. Obama is no exception. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Alan Baker on 14 May 2010 18:22 In article <lviru59gr8rienqn2venm9pigrbervdekr(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:46 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> > wrote: > > >> US constitution begs to differ. > > > >Not according to the Obama Administration. > > Just about all presidents believe them to be above the Constitution. > Obama is no exception. In what way? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: BAR on 14 May 2010 18:26 In article <79iru5t6cmqrshn4d2847c0lafpkmmlo4c(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:55:09 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >> So I would be sent to Colorado if I didn't have my proof of > >> citizenship? > > > >You seem to miss the point. If you are a citizen you do not have to > >carry proof on your person at all times. Your argument fails on its > >face. > > If I am stopped, and they ask to see my legal papers, I can claim to > be a citizen - and I would be even telling the truth. I suspect > others will lie. Either case, we won't show the papers. Lying to law enforcement is a crime. Therefore, if you are not a citizen and you say you are a citizen you have committed another crime. > >The federal law states that non-citizens are required to carry their > >proof of ability to be in the US on their person at all times. > > The guy who sits next to me at work is Canadian. He tells me this > isn't true. He is wrong.
From: BAR on 14 May 2010 18:28
In article <alangbaker-2580B2.15225214052010(a)news.shawcable.com>, alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > In article <lviru59gr8rienqn2venm9pigrbervdekr(a)4ax.com>, > Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:46 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> US constitution begs to differ. > > > > > >Not according to the Obama Administration. > > > > Just about all presidents believe them to be above the Constitution. > > Obama is no exception. > > In what way? There were these really smart dudes about 250 years ago who had a real good understanding of human nature. When they constituted the US they made sure to put in these things called checks and balances. |