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From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:30
On May 5, 6:25 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <d7f32a2b-ab90-4f65-ab97-a74eb73c62c4
> @q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > On May 4, 11:42 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> > > > Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the
> > > > non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely.
> > > > One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of
> > > > working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper
> > > > ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could
> > > > be with a bio-metric ID card.
> > > > --
> > > > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> > > > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> > > > to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
> > > > - James Madison
> > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I
> > > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area
> > > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a
> > > quarter of them should have been working at all.
> > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the
> > > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally.
> > > Ken
> > Send them all back? Exactly how might that be accomplished?
> As you find them you send them back.
We already do that. Lot of good it does.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:33
On May 5, 6:46 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT), larryrsf
> <lar...(a)delmardata.com> wrote:
> >All illegals will self-deport when legal jobs dry up and when they
> >cannot live on welfare, etc. Very simple. We need to do what EVERY
> >country in the world does--make draconian punishment for those who
> >knowingly employ illegals. Jail, confiscated businesses, etc.
> But pay for the check. The Ma and Pa restaurant needs to be able to
> cheaply and quickly check every prospective employee's status.
They can do that now.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:34
On May 5, 7:03 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 09:50:19 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> >>> Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place.
> >> No interfering with the free market, you socialist!
> >So we can abolish the minimum wage then?
> Sure, how many citizens work for the minimum wage?
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:39
On May 5, 8:21 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate
> >those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S.
> >Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a
> >plausible solution.
> If you make it impossible for them to work and get any type of
> benefits, they'll go home on their own.
What you don't understand is that it's impossible to work where they
came from. That's why they're here.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:44
On May 5, 9:11 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:40:12 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> >> Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate
> >> those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S.
> >> Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a
> >> plausible solution.
> >It is a plausible solution. You just don't want to do it. And, your
> >numbers are woefully short, most government entities and officials have
> >the number of illegal aliens at 12 million.
> I'm not at all convinced we can make a physical border that will stop
> enough. And there are illegal Asians and Europeans entering via the
> Canadian border.
Israel has completely sealed its border. Nobody can enter the country
without their knowing about it. We can do that too.