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From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:30 On May 5, 6:25 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <d7f32a2b-ab90-4f65-ab97-a74eb73c62c4 > @q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On May 4, 11:42 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > > > Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > > > > non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > > > > One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > > > > working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > > > > ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > > > > be with a bio-metric ID card. > > > > > -- > > > > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > > > > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > > > > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > > > > - James Madison > > > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > > > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > > > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > > > quarter of them should have been working at all. > > > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > > > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > > > Ken > > > Send them all back? Exactly how might that be accomplished? > > As you find them you send them back. We already do that. Lot of good it does.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:33 On May 5, 6:46 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT), larryrsf > > <lar...(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > >All illegals will self-deport when legal jobs dry up and when they > >cannot live on welfare, etc. Very simple. We need to do what EVERY > >country in the world does--make draconian punishment for those who > >knowingly employ illegals. Jail, confiscated businesses, etc. > > But pay for the check. The Ma and Pa restaurant needs to be able to > cheaply and quickly check every prospective employee's status. They can do that now.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:34 On May 5, 7:03 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 2010 09:50:19 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > >>> Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place. > > >> No interfering with the free market, you socialist! > > >So we can abolish the minimum wage then? > > Sure, how many citizens work for the minimum wage? > Millions.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:39 On May 5, 8:21 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 2010 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate > >those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S. > >Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a > >plausible solution. > > If you make it impossible for them to work and get any type of > benefits, they'll go home on their own. What you don't understand is that it's impossible to work where they came from. That's why they're here.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 23:44
On May 5, 9:11 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:40:12 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >> Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate > >> those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S. > >> Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a > >> plausible solution. > > >It is a plausible solution. You just don't want to do it. And, your > >numbers are woefully short, most government entities and officials have > >the number of illegal aliens at 12 million. > > I'm not at all convinced we can make a physical border that will stop > enough. And there are illegal Asians and Europeans entering via the > Canadian border. > Israel has completely sealed its border. Nobody can enter the country without their knowing about it. We can do that too. |