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From: Alan Baker on 17 May 2010 12:44 In article <hsrc6a$7pn$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-3F0CBA.15361914052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <MPG.265798b2d7093387989f1e(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> There were these really smart dudes about 250 years ago who had a real > >> good understanding of human nature. When they constituted the US they > >> made sure to put in these things called checks and balances. > > > > Once again with the deliberate obtuseness, Bert? > > > > In what way does Obama believe himself to be above the United States > > Constitution? > > I don't think anybody said he was. The comment was directed at your > interpretation of the Constitution. You mean other than: "Just about all presidents believe them to be above the Constitution. Obama is no exception." -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 17 May 2010 13:38 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:5740ee6a-f997-4a9e-820a-ffede9ff3862(a)v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com... On May 17, 4:03 am, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-2407CC.12214716052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article > > <177e36a9-3e8b-4583-90be-661b9b30c...(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>, > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 16, 5:02 am, alan <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > On May 15, 10:33 am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 17:51:05 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >On May 14, 7:45=A0pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:27:12 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > > > > >> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> >You have yet to explain how or why legalizing drugs would have > any of > > > > > >> >these effects. Legal or illegal, people still have to pay for > them. > > > > > > >> Actually it's been explained a few times already. =A0Obviously > you > > > > > >> haven't been paying attention. > > > > > > >I've been paying very close attention, and you have not explained > it. > > > > > > If you could get a reliable supply of heroin for $25 a day rather > than > > > > > $500, it would be possible for addicts to get the money they neeed > > > > > without stealing. One of the reasons that methadone was introduced > > > > > was to allow addicts to stop comitting crimes (many violent) in > order > > > > > to support their habit. It also allowed addicts to get jobs and > > > > > resume a somewhat normal life. The addict benefited and so did the > > > > > community. > > > > > > In addition, if drugs were legally available in a store then street > > > > > gangs wouldn't be killing each other for the right to seel drugs on > > > > > the street. > > > > > Nor would they be handing out free samples to try and get new > > > > customers hooked. > > > > > > >> >And why are children of drug addicts better off having their > parents > > > > > >> >at home? Do you think junkies make good parents? > > > > > > >> If drugs were legal, they would have a lot better chance of being > good > > > > > >> parents. > > > > > > >A junkie is a better parent if heroin is legal than if it's > illegal? > > > > > >You can't be serious. Did the end of Prohibition make alcoholics > > > > > >better parents? > > > > > > Did it make them worse parents? > > > > > Good point. > > > > It is not a good point at all. Making narcotics widely available, > > > cheap and easy to buy would expand the ranks of drug addicts. Anyone > > > who thinks a drug addict can be a responsible, productive member of > > > society and a good spouse and parent is incredibly ignorant. > > > I'm sorry, but that is just not necessarily so. > > Wow. That's a helluva rebuttal. Ever thought about running for office. > You got the skill of "speaking out of both sides of your mouth down pat." > > -Greg Yes, he really shut me down with that. Thank God he didn't hit me with an LOL. That would have ruined my day. ---------------------------------------------------- I like it when he says LOL. It's a sure sign of defeat on his part. -Greg
From: Jack Hollis on 17 May 2010 20:01 On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict and he was a very >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment manufacturer. =A0The guy made >> tons of money and never had to worry about scoring drugs. =A0During the >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting sick and at night, if >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next morning, he was in better >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > >Did he have kids? No, but he was married. But there was nothing about him that would have made it impossible to be a good parent.
From: Jack Hollis on 17 May 2010 20:08 On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:26:30 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Is that right? Is giving birth to a heroin-addicted baby part of a >normal life? It's estimated that about 300k babies are born with exposure to drugs and.or alcohol. Most of them are children of alcoholic mothers. >Is neglecting your responsibilities because you're fucked >up part of a normal life? Sadly yes.. >Is getting into a car wreck because you're >fucked up part of a normal life? It's fairly common. Of course, alcohol is the main culprit here. >Legal heroin has exactly the same >effect on people as illegal heroin. Physiologically yes, but socially there's a big difference.
From: Jack Hollis on 17 May 2010 20:21
On Mon, 17 May 2010 01:01:49 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >> You really don't know what you're talking about. > >Please.....explain why you know what you're talking about. I had experience with drugs from a law enforcement point of view when I was a police officer. I had lots of personal experience using drugs during the 60s and 70s and had many close friends who were addicts. I spent a lot of time studying addiction and the treatment of addictions in graduate school. Most of the patients I saw when I worked at Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn were drug users and for many of them, the focus of the treatment was drug abuse. I was the director of an outpatient drug treatment program in East Harlem connected to Metropolitan Hospital. I also spent time working with the Methadone Maintenance Program and the detox unit in the same hospital. |