From: Moderate on
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 10:56 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:4bf34561$0$22146$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >
> > > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:15:31 -0700, John B. wrote:
> >
> > > >> Are you sure. I used to smoke about 20 years ago. IIRC I smoked
> > > > > about
> > > >> a pack a day. The price rose and I smoked the same amount. I
> > > > > just
> > > >> spent more.
> >
> > > > Presumably your income went up over the years, so you could
> > > > afford to
> > > > spend more.
> >
> > > Yeah, but that doesn't matter. The amount I smoked was driven by
> > > my
> > > addiction to nicotine, not by the cost.
> >
> > Glad to read you're not smelly anymore. ;>
> >
> > -Greg
>
> I guess you're never going to hear the end of that, Carbon.
>

He supports slavery, but he wants clean slaves.
From: John B. on
On May 20, 10:21 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 18, 10:56 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:4bf34561$0$22146$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:15:31 -0700, John B. wrote:
>
> > > > >> Are you sure. I used to smoke about 20 years ago. IIRC I smoked
> > > > > > about
> > > > >> a pack a day. The price rose and I smoked the same amount. I
> > > > > > just
> > > > >> spent more.
>
> > > > > Presumably your income went up over the years, so you could
> > > > > afford to
> > > > > spend more.
>
> > > > Yeah, but that doesn't matter. The amount I smoked was driven by
> > > > my
> > > > addiction to nicotine, not by the cost.
>
> > > Glad to read you're not smelly anymore.  ;>
>
> > > -Greg
>
> > I guess you're never going to hear the end of that, Carbon.
>
> He supports slavery, but he wants clean slaves.

....whatever that means.
From: Alan Baker on
In article <85ghk7F3juU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article
> > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d4855647516c(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > >
> > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict and he was a very
> > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment manufacturer. =A0The
> guy
> > > > > > >> made
> > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about scoring drugs.
> =A0During
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting sick and at
> night,
> > > > > > >> if
> > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next morning, he was in
> > > > > > >> better
> > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are.
> > > >
> > > > > > >Did he have kids?
> > > >
> > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing about him that would
> > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent.
> > > >
> > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are not rich and
> > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic.
> > > >
> > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black market drugs cost
> > > > helps to make them that way.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alan Baker
> > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
> > >
> > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all into
> > > responsible, productive citizens, right?
> >
> > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while still being able
> > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc.
>
> Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie.
>
> -Greg

Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <85ghk7F3juU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > In article
> > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d4855647516c(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > >
<a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > > >
> > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict and he was a
very
> > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment manufacturer.
=A0The
> > guy
> > > > > > > >> made
> > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about scoring drugs.
> > =A0During
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting sick and at
> > night,
> > > > > > > >> if
> > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next morning, he was
in
> > > > > > > >> better
> > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >Did he have kids?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing about him that
would
> > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are not rich and
> > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black market drugs
cost
> > > > > helps to make them that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Alan Baker
> > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
> > > >
> > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all into
> > > > responsible, productive citizens, right?
> > >
> > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while still being able
> > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc.
> >
> > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie.
> >
> > -Greg
>
> Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic.

Neither....obviously.

-Greg


From: Alan Baker on
In article <860fkdF48fU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <85ghk7F3juU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > > news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > > In article
> > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d4855647516c(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > >
> <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict and he was a
> very
> > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment manufacturer.
> =A0The
> > > guy
> > > > > > > > >> made
> > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about scoring drugs.
> > > =A0During
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting sick and at
> > > night,
> > > > > > > > >> if
> > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next morning, he was
> in
> > > > > > > > >> better
> > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Did he have kids?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing about him that
> would
> > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are not rich and
> > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black market drugs
> cost
> > > > > > helps to make them that way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Alan Baker
> > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
> > > > >
> > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all into
> > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right?
> > > >
> > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while still being able
> > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc.
> > >
> > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic.
>
> Neither....obviously.
>
> -Greg

So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>