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From: Alan Baker on 24 May 2010 23:05 In article <860s8sFvc8U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-D5DF5B.19432924052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article > > <17c588f0-857c-4abd-b7b0-9d27fb16d8f6(a)q39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > > Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 24, 6:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > >news:alangbaker-D14129.17300624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > In article <860fkdF48...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > In article <85ghk7F3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d48556475...(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John > B." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict > and he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > a > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> manufacturer. > > > > > > > =A0The > > > > > > > > > guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about > scoring > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > =A0During > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting > sick > > > > > and at > > > > > > > > > night, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next > morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > was > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Did he have kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing > about him > > > > > that > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black > market > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > > > > > helps to make them that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all > into > > > > > > > > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while > still > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic. > > > > > > > > > > > Neither....obviously. > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > > > No. I advocate not adding to an existing problem. Besides...alcohol > is > > > > > not > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. Meth is. > > > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > Substantiate where I'm wrong. > > > > Nope. > > > > It's your claim, you substantiate it. > > I'd be happy to, if it wasn't for the fact that a troll is demanding it. LOL Funny how you were willing to argue the point up until it actually required you to support what you claim... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 25 May 2010 02:04 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-B94593.20042624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <860s5tFuteU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > I admit that Jack answered my question. Unlike you, Jack wears big boy > > pants. Consquently, I respect him as an individual who is willing to assert > > ideas and substantiate his rationale, in contrast to you. His sincere > > response doesn't require a response or agreement. > > Not if you lack personal honour. A troll talking about honour. > You implied that there was no reason his opinion should be worth any > more than your own, and even if you want to argue that point, you are > nicely ducking the question of what you think his experience means as to I implied nothing. > the value of his opinions when compared to yours. > > Please explain why *you* know what you're talking about, insurance > salesman. Explain why I don't, deadbeat. -Greg
From: dene on 25 May 2010 02:05 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-9AA221.20051424052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <860s8sFvc8U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-D5DF5B.19432924052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > In article > > > <17c588f0-857c-4abd-b7b0-9d27fb16d8f6(a)q39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > > > Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 24, 6:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > >news:alangbaker-D14129.17300624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article <860fkdF48...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > In article <85ghk7F3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d48556475...(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John > > B." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict > > and he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> manufacturer. > > > > > > > > =A0The > > > > > > > > > > guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about > > scoring > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > =A0During > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting > > sick > > > > > > and at > > > > > > > > > > night, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next > > morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Did he have kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing > > about him > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black > > market > > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps to make them that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while > > still > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither....obviously. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > > > > > No. I advocate not adding to an existing problem. Besides...alcohol > > is > > > > > > not > > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. Meth is. > > > > > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > > > Substantiate where I'm wrong. > > > > > > Nope. > > > > > > It's your claim, you substantiate it. > > > > I'd be happy to, if it wasn't for the fact that a troll is demanding it. > > LOL > > Funny how you were willing to argue the point up until it actually > required you to support what you claim... LOL. <Don't you just hate your own medicine, troll.> -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 25 May 2010 02:26 In article <8617b6Fjt0U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-B94593.20042624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <860s5tFuteU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > I admit that Jack answered my question. Unlike you, Jack wears big boy > > > pants. Consquently, I respect him as an individual who is willing to > assert > > > ideas and substantiate his rationale, in contrast to you. His sincere > > > response doesn't require a response or agreement. > > > > Not if you lack personal honour. > > A troll talking about honour. > > > You implied that there was no reason his opinion should be worth any > > more than your own, and even if you want to argue that point, you are > > nicely ducking the question of what you think his experience means as to > > I implied nothing. Yes, you did. > > > the value of his opinions when compared to yours. > > > > Please explain why *you* know what you're talking about, insurance > > salesman. > > Explain why I don't, deadbeat. I understand. You've got nothing, insurance salesman. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 25 May 2010 02:26
In article <8617daFk7eU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-9AA221.20051424052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <860s8sFvc8U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > news:alangbaker-D5DF5B.19432924052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article > > > > <17c588f0-857c-4abd-b7b0-9d27fb16d8f6(a)q39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 24, 6:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-D14129.17300624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > In article <860fkdF48...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > In article <85ghk7F3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d48556475...(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker > <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis > <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), > "John > > > B." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin > addict > > > and he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> manufacturer. > > > > > > > > > =A0The > > > > > > > > > > > guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about > > > scoring > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > =A0During > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from > getting > > > sick > > > > > > > and at > > > > > > > > > > > night, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next > > > morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Did he have kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing > > > about him > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies > are > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black > > > market > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps to make them that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them > all > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither....obviously. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. I advocate not adding to an existing problem. > Besides...alcohol > > > is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. Meth is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > > > > > Substantiate where I'm wrong. > > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > > > > > It's your claim, you substantiate it. > > > > > > I'd be happy to, if it wasn't for the fact that a troll is demanding it. > > > > LOL > > > > Funny how you were willing to argue the point up until it actually > > required you to support what you claim... > > LOL. > > <Don't you just hate your own medicine, troll.> Not in the slightest. I note a condition that exists: you were fine with this argument until you were called upon to back up a claim. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |