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From: Dene on 25 May 2010 21:45 On May 25, 2:35 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <302b0f2d-24dd-44de-a3f7-2622fe128...(a)o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 25, 4:51 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article > > > <f2f2b894-dae9-43f1-8b59-355f541d2...(a)o39g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>, > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 24, 9:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > >news:alangbaker-D14129.17300624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article <860fkdF48...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > In article <85ghk7F3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com.... > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d48556475...(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> manufacturer. > > > > > > > > =A0The > > > > > > > > > > guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> scoring > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > =A0During > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> sick > > > > > > and at > > > > > > > > > > night, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Did he have kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black > > > > > > > > > > > > > market > > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps to make them that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jp > > > > > > > > > > > > > g> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them all > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while still > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie. > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic. > > > > > > > > > Neither....obviously. > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > No. I advocate not adding to an existing problem. Besides....alcohol > > > > > > is > > > > > > not > > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. Meth is. > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > -- > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > What percentage of people who ever drink alcohol would you guess are > > > > alcoholics? And what percentage of those who ever use meth would you > > > > guess are addicts? > > > > I'd say a far higher percentage that there are alcoholics among people > > > who drink alcohol. > > > I'd say you're dead wrong. Most people who drink are not alcoholics. > > Many, if not most, people who use meth, crack or heroin are addicts. > > I'm agreeing that there is a higher percentage of meth users who are > addicted than alcohol users who are alcoholics. Didn't I assert that in an earlier post? It's no wonder you troll. You simply do not have the intellect to carry on a normal discussion. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 25 May 2010 22:17 In article <8c46bbc7-aee3-4c59-b515-8ca0b3679f8f(a)11g2000prv.googlegroups.com>, Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > On May 25, 2:35�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article > > <302b0f2d-24dd-44de-a3f7-2622fe128...(a)o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, > > �"John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 25, 4:51�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <f2f2b894-dae9-43f1-8b59-355f541d2...(a)o39g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > �"John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 24, 9:24�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-D14129.17300624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > In article <860fkdF48...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-87D661.13473523052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > In article <85ghk7F3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > >news:alangbaker-CE0843.14323318052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > <f60067b2-63ec-4af0-8ab5-d48556475...(a)i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > �"John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:22 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > > > <a420c80e-7878-42af-b5eb-74279c58b...(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups. > > > > > > > > > com> > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:01 pm, Jack Hollis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), "John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I had a close friend who was a heroin addict > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> successful salesman for a heavy equipment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> manufacturer. > > > > > > > > > =A0The > > > > > > > > > > > guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> tons of money and never had to worry about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> scoring > > > > > > > drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > =A0During > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> day he'd take enough smack to keep from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> sick > > > > > > > and at > > > > > > > > > > > night, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he wanted, he would get wasted. =A0The next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> shape than a lot of alcoholics are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Did he have kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but he was married. But there was nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have made it impossible to be a good parent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, this may surprise you, but most junkies are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful. Most are poor and pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being junkies for something that costs what black > > > > > > > > > > > > > > market > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drugs > > > > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps to make them that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b.jp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > g> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. And lowering the price is going to turn them > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsible, productive citizens, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will certainly help some maintain themselves while > > > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > > to hold down a job, buy food, shelter, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire a junkie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > Name an employer who wants to hire an alcoholic. > > > > > > > > > > > Neither....obviously. > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > > > No. �I advocate not adding to an existing problem. > > > > > > > �Besides...alcohol > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. �Meth is. > > > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > > > What percentage of people who ever drink alcohol would you guess are > > > > > alcoholics? And what percentage of those who ever use meth would you > > > > > guess are addicts? > > > > > > I'd say a far higher percentage that there are alcoholics among people > > > > who drink alcohol. > > > > > I'd say you're dead wrong. Most people who drink are not alcoholics. > > > Many, if not most, people who use meth, crack or heroin are addicts. > > > > I'm agreeing that there is a higher percentage of meth users who are > > addicted than alcohol users who are alcoholics. > > Didn't I assert that in an earlier post? It's no wonder you troll. > You simply do not have the intellect to carry on a normal discussion. No. That is not what you asserted. What a pity you can't even comprehend what you've written yourself. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 25 May 2010 22:18 In article <7de0b3c7-7f05-482d-8ee3-a8e37e7f8994(a)g1g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > On May 25, 2:17�pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On May 25, 4:51�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <8629glF1f...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:f2f2b894-dae9-43f1-8b59-355f541d2748(a)o39g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... > > > > On May 24, 9:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <860kgdFr8...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > > So then you advocate making alcohol illegal do you? > > > > > > > > No. I advocate not adding to an existing problem. Besides...alcohol > > > > > > is > > > > not > > > > > > addicting to the majority of the public. Meth is. > > > > > > > Really? And you know this, how? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Alan Baker > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > > What percentage of people who ever drink alcohol would you guess are > > > > alcoholics? And what percentage of those who ever use meth would you > > > > guess are addicts? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > You expect a troll to answer that question? > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > LOL > > > > Bam! He nailed you again, Greg.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > John was being sarcastic. The joke is on you.....troll. > > -Greg LOL -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 25 May 2010 22:45 In article <5faa3989-369c-467e-8fc9-1439548857fb(a)n37g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote: > On May 24, 11:26�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article <8617b6Fjt...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > >news:alangbaker-B94593.20042624052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article <860s5tFut...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I admit that Jack answered my question. � Unlike you, Jack wears big > > > > > boy > > > > > pants. �Consquently, I respect him as an individual who is willing to > > > assert > > > > > ideas and substantiate his rationale, in contrast to you. �His > > > > > sincere > > > > > response doesn't require a response or agreement. > > > > > > Not if you lack personal honour. > > > > > A troll talking about honour. > > > > > > You implied that there was no reason his opinion should be worth any > > > > more than your own, and even if you want to argue that point, you are > > > > nicely ducking the question of what you think his experience means as > > > > to > > > > > I implied nothing. > > > > Yes, you did. > > > > > > > > > > the value of his opinions when compared to yours. > > > > > > Please explain why *you* know what you're talking about, insurance > > > > salesman. > > > > > Explain why I don't, deadbeat. > > > > I understand. You've got nothing, insurance salesman. > > On the contrary, this insurance salesman makes $13,000/mo. > > -Greg I win! -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on 26 May 2010 00:43
On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:47 -0700, Dene wrote: > On May 25, 2:17 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: >> In article <8624nqF3r...(a)mid.individual.net>, >> "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message >>> news:860s8sFvc8U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> I'd be happy to, if it wasn't for the fact that a troll is >>>> demanding it. >>> >>> For the little pissant that he is, he is awful demanding. >> >> I'm not in the slightest demanding, Mike. I'm *observing*. >> >> In this case, I observe that Greg was happy to argue until someone >> actually asked him to provide some support for his claims. > > I'm always happy to back up my opinion unless the question comes from > a pissant troll. Taking issue with something you said is not trolling. Arguing that we should gun down everyone we think may be crossing the border illegally, THAT'S trolling. |