From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:23:05 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> How about considering What Would Jesus Do, instead of having
>> situational ethics deciding who to hate?
>
>I thought there was separation of church and state. What does Jesus have
>to do with the running of the country and the enforcement of its laws.

I am. But I am big on having people from the Religious Right going
to their source and modeling their lives on Jesus - whose example was
to fight the Righteous and be good instead.

>However, if you vote for whom your pastor or priest tells you to vote
>for you should stay out of the polling places.

Pastor or priest or talk show host or newspaper or corporation or
advertisement...


--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Carbon on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:20:04 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4c005d51$0$4835$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:28:05 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>
>>> How is your visa? Has it expired?
>>
>> I win yet again.
>
> So your visa is up to date? Don't you have a green card yet?

Poor Bert, reduced to blurting out the same ridiculous platitudes over
and over. Seems like there are some pretty serious side effects to
having a walnut-sized brain. But hey, at least you remember to breathe
so it's not all bad.
From: Carbon on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:19:14 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4c005a90$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:38:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <alangbaker-46A6BD.16292828052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
>>> alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you state your position on the issue.
>>>>
>>>> My position is that I don't know all the answers, but killing
>>>> people out of hand is just plain wrong.
>>>
>>> You don't have a position. You don't have a solution. You are
>>> waiting for someone to enact a solution and then you will jump on
>>> the coattails and ride it.
>>
>> Which is better: Acknowledging the complexity of a problem and put
>> some effort into understanding it, or blurting out the most
>> ridiculous you can think of?
>
> The problem is not complex. The solution is on the large side but it
> is fixable. The solution requires a firm hand and strong will.

You don't realize that the problem is complex because you are incapable
of complex thought. Hope this helps.
From: BAR on
In article <4c010e27$0$5032$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:19:14 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <4c005a90$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:38:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> In article <alangbaker-46A6BD.16292828052010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> >>> alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why don't you state your position on the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> My position is that I don't know all the answers, but killing
> >>>> people out of hand is just plain wrong.
> >>>
> >>> You don't have a position. You don't have a solution. You are
> >>> waiting for someone to enact a solution and then you will jump on
> >>> the coattails and ride it.
> >>
> >> Which is better: Acknowledging the complexity of a problem and put
> >> some effort into understanding it, or blurting out the most
> >> ridiculous you can think of?
> >
> > The problem is not complex. The solution is on the large side but it
> > is fixable. The solution requires a firm hand and strong will.
>
> You don't realize that the problem is complex because you are incapable
> of complex thought. Hope this helps.

The problem is not complex. The solution is not complex either. The will
to implement the solution, deporting illegal aliens, may seem cruel and
heartless but, when you compare it to those who are standing in line
waiting to get into the US legally it is compassionate. Would you reward
the bank robber or the bank customer?

You, Carb's, keep saying that our, the US, economy depends upon illegal
aliens to keep the labor costs low and prices reasonable. My position is
let the chips fall where they may. If the price of a head of lettuce
doubles, tomatoes (most of which are imported) increases, let them
increase. The other side of the coin is that illegals will not be using
our ER's, causing you to have to sit with the smelly people, as doctors
offices and the cost of medical care will be reduced.

In Prince William County Virginia they started to crack down on illegal
aliens. All of the illegal aliens moved out of the county and the crime
rate dropped nearly 40%. Forty percent, that is an amazing amount of
crime attributed to illegal aliens. I just wish my county had the balls
to implement the same thing but, we are a sanctuary county and you can
see the writing on the wall. Gangs are moving in, the school system's
once stellar record, either 1 or 2 in the nation, is in free-fall. Our
jail demographics are 50% illegal alien and 50% non-illegal alien.

Again, the problem is one of political will and not complexity.


From: John B. on
On May 29, 7:11 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <e58f1b90-84ad-4b0c-a663-bb3809131c22
> @y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > > > > What is your solution? I see lots of words from you but no solutions.
>
> > > > A lot of very smart, knowledgeable people have written and spoken at
> > > > length about illegal immigration and what to do about it. Why don't
> > > > you crawl out from under your rock, do a little research and find out
>
> > > Why don't you state your position on the issue.
>
> > What the hell do you care what my position is? And why should I waste
> > my time explaining it to you? Anybody who thinks the solution to
> > illegal immigration is to kill the immigrants, and who is too dumb to
> > understand what the consequences of that would be, is not going to be
> > open to rational, objective thought.
>
> You have no solution. Just like Baker you are waiting for the government
> to come up with a new plan and once they do you will jump on that
> bandwagon and support it.

You have no solution, either. All you have is pathological hatred and
bloodlust.