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From: Carbon on 30 May 2010 09:11 On Sat, 29 May 2010 23:02:40 -0700, Don Kirkman wrote: > On 30 May 2010 03:37:29 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:06:20 -0700, Don Kirkman wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 06:13:21 -0600, Howard Brazee >>> <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >>> >>>> And on all sides we will find examples of people who adjust their >>>> ethics to fit their wants. I see as much of this on the Right as >>>> I do in the Left. >>> >>> Also true. But don't equate that with situational ethics, which >>> holds that there is an flexible but reasoned ethical approach to >>> social problems. SE is not adjusting to fit one's wants but >>> adjusting to fit the needs of the situation. IOW, it's a flexible >>> approach, not a legalistic approach. Earlier, I think it was you >>> who mentioned "What would Jesus do"; part of the authorities' >>> opposition to Jesus was that he rejected their legalism and taught >>> reasoned behavior based on the *principles* of their religion. >> >> Most of those who sneer at situational ethics have no idea what it >> means. > > But I wasn't sneering. :-) I actually hoped to do a bit of > educating. I suppose I was vague about who I thought those sneerers were, but I certainly didn't mean you. I meant those who enjoy using the term as a cudgel.
From: Carbon on 30 May 2010 09:15 On Sun, 30 May 2010 06:34:02 -0400, BAR wrote: > In article <4c01dc8b$0$12469$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:49:14 -0400, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4c01268a$0$4969$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 09:34:24 -0400, BAR wrote: In article >>>> <4c010d8b$0$5032$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:20:04 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>>>> In article <4c005d51$0$4835$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:28:05 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How is your visa? Has it expired? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I win yet again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So your visa is up to date? Don't you have a green card yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> Poor Bert, reduced to blurting out the same ridiculous platitudes >>>>>> over and over. Seems like there are some pretty serious side >>>>>> effects to having a walnut-sized brain. But hey, at least you >>>>>> remember to breathe so it's not all bad. >>>>> >>>>> Is your visa up to date? Has it expired? Or, are you a green card >>>>> holder. There is no shame in answering the question. But, it does >>>>> put your position on the issue into the proper light. >>>>> >>>>> I will assume that you are here on a visa and that you have >>>>> overstayed your visa. Your leanings on the issue are similar to >>>>> those of illegal aliens. >>>> >>>> Your leanings on the issue are similar to those of idiots. >>> >>> You views are biased due to the fact that you are on the verge of >>> being an illegal alien yourself. >> >> As a differently abled person, I guess you must not realize how >> retarded your posts are. > > When do I get the handicapped license plate. That will get me a good > parking place at the golf course and I will get a clip on flag that > will allow me to drive my golf cart anywhere except on the tee box or > the surface of the green or in the bunkers. What state do you live in again? I will write a letter on your behalf to your local DMV.
From: BAR on 30 May 2010 09:39 In article <pco406hlh9rauluk7fc5h6jg3som938hl7(a)4ax.com>, xsleeper(a)aol.com says... > > On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:33:25 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >I find it highly interesting that your friends form south of the US > >border will jail illegal aliens for two years for their first offense > >and jail them for ten years for their second offense. Do you support > >this? Do you support this? Do you believe that the US should adopt this? > > > I'd deport them for the first offense. It costs too much money to > detain someone. Prison time would be appropriate for a second > offense. Next I would make it impossible for any illegal alien to > ever become a citizen and children born to illegal's in the US are not > citizens. On the second offense I would disallow them entry in the US in perpetuity. I would also have the 14th amendment changed too. One or both parents must be citizens in order for you to be a citizen, or your parents must have been in the country for 3 continuous years prior to your birth. > Of course, the people who really belong in prison are the people who > hire illegal's as workers. The problem with putting the onus on the employers for being documentation experts is that they have no way of verifying that the documents presented are true and correct. If you are going to go in this direction then a national ID card is required.
From: BAR on 30 May 2010 09:40 In article <4c0264e4$0$7916$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Sun, 30 May 2010 06:34:02 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <4c01dc8b$0$12469$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:49:14 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4c01268a$0$4969$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 09:34:24 -0400, BAR wrote: In article > >>>> <4c010d8b$0$5032$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:20:04 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <4c005d51$0$4835$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:28:05 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> How is your visa? Has it expired? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I win yet again. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So your visa is up to date? Don't you have a green card yet? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Poor Bert, reduced to blurting out the same ridiculous platitudes > >>>>>> over and over. Seems like there are some pretty serious side > >>>>>> effects to having a walnut-sized brain. But hey, at least you > >>>>>> remember to breathe so it's not all bad. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is your visa up to date? Has it expired? Or, are you a green card > >>>>> holder. There is no shame in answering the question. But, it does > >>>>> put your position on the issue into the proper light. > >>>>> > >>>>> I will assume that you are here on a visa and that you have > >>>>> overstayed your visa. Your leanings on the issue are similar to > >>>>> those of illegal aliens. > >>>> > >>>> Your leanings on the issue are similar to those of idiots. > >>> > >>> You views are biased due to the fact that you are on the verge of > >>> being an illegal alien yourself. > >> > >> As a differently abled person, I guess you must not realize how > >> retarded your posts are. > > > > When do I get the handicapped license plate. That will get me a good > > parking place at the golf course and I will get a clip on flag that > > will allow me to drive my golf cart anywhere except on the tee box or > > the surface of the green or in the bunkers. > > What state do you live in again? I will write a letter on your behalf to > your local DMV. We don't have a DMV, we have an MVA.
From: John B. on 30 May 2010 11:40
On May 30, 9:05 am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 19:33:25 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >I find it highly interesting that your friends form south of the US > >border will jail illegal aliens for two years for their first offense > >and jail them for ten years for their second offense. Do you support > >this? Do you support this? Do you believe that the US should adopt this? > > I'd deport them for the first offense. It costs too much money to > detain someone. Prison time would be appropriate for a second > offense. Next I would make it impossible for any illegal alien to > ever become a citizen and children born to illegal's in the US are not > citizens. > > Of course, the people who really belong in prison are the people who > hire illegal's as workers. The woman who cleans my house is Hispanic. I have no idea what her immigration status is. Does that make me a criminal? If everyone who hired illegal aliens were to be imprisoned, we'd have to build a whole hell of lot of new prisons. |