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From: Howard Brazee on 6 May 2010 07:47 On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:33:57 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >All illegals will self-deport when legal jobs dry up and when they >> >cannot live on welfare, etc. �Very simple. �We need to do what EVERY >> >country in the world does--make draconian punishment for those who >> >knowingly employ illegals. � Jail, confiscated businesses, etc. >> >> But pay for the check. � The Ma and Pa restaurant needs to be able to >> cheaply and quickly check every prospective employee's status. > >They can do that now. Fake IDs are easy to get now. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 6 May 2010 07:48 On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:44:50 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm not at all convinced we can make a physical border that will stop >> enough. � And there are illegal Asians and Europeans entering via the >> Canadian border. >> >Israel has completely sealed its border. Nobody can enter the country >without their knowing about it. We can do that too. Israel's border is much, much smaller, and they spend a tremendous amount on border security. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 6 May 2010 07:50 On Wed, 5 May 2010 23:20:14 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >Because few men are islands. Getting stoned everyday has a direct effect on >other people. Duh! As does getting drunk. Do you want a return of prohibition too? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: BAR on 6 May 2010 07:51 In article <4be2aaab$0$4875$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Wed, 05 May 2010 23:22:09 -0700, dene wrote: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4be2143c$0$12286$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 20:33:35 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4be204cc$0$4988$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>> > >>>> The high standard of living that we enjoy is due in part to the > >>>> availability of a large pool of cheap labor. It isn't economically > >>>> practical to kick them all out. Your party will see to it that it > >>>> never happens anyway. You do know this, right? > >>> > >>> You do realize that you are making an argument for keeping illegal > >>> immagration for the sole purpose of keeping prices low to ensure > >>> your current standard of living. That is extremely selfish of you. > >> > >> I advocated nothing. I described policies implicitly supported by > >> your your own party. I personally think the whole situation is > >> ridiculous. You true believers are being taken advantage of. The > >> Republicans, like the Democrats, are sponsored by big agriculture and > >> by many other large industries who are depended on this practically > >> unlimited pool of cheap labor. They are absolutely not going to allow > >> the source of their profits to be kicked out. > > > > So what is your solution to dealing with these illegal, "smelly" > > people? > > I originally made the smelly crack to appeal to the less tolerant here. > I don't really believe it. Some of my best friends are smelly... Nice try but there has been too much time that has passed. You will forever be known as they guy who wants a seperate waiting room at the ER so that you don't have be offended by the smells of the masses. > Anyway, I think the only thing that will stop illegal immigration is for > the economy to get so bad here that it's not worth the trip to get here. > Otherwise, it's simple market forces. Labor goes where the pay is > greatest. Is that what Obama is doing. I would never have guessed that the purposeful destruction of the US economy was an effort to stop illegal immigration. Does Obama know he is working towards getting rid of a staunch Democrat voting block. > I find it highly amusing that the same people who foam at the mouth over > even the thought regulating the healthcare or oil industries (what could > possibly go wrong?) want to round everyone up who even so much as looks > Mexican. Do we only believe in free market capitalism when it's > convenient, or what? Look at how well the US government's plan worked for oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico? A plan that has been on the books since 1994 and when it was time to execute the plan they guy who should have been doing it didn't bother to cancel his white-water rafting trip in the Grand Canyon. I sure hope you don't need that life saving surgery when your doctor has a tee time. Don't get hung up on the illegal aliens from Mexicon, we don't want the illegal aliens from Canada either and they often look just like us. In fact we don't want illegal aliens from anywhere. What does Canada do to illegal aliens? Just throw their hands up and say oh well?
From: Carbon on 6 May 2010 07:52
On Thu, 06 May 2010 07:33:41 -0400, BAR wrote: > In article <4be2143c$0$12286$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 20:33:35 -0400, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4be204cc$0$4988$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>> >>>> The high standard of living that we enjoy is due in part to the >>>> availability of a large pool of cheap labor. It isn't economically >>>> practical to kick them all out. Your party will see to it that it >>>> never happens anyway. You do know this, right? >>> >>> You do realize that you are making an argument for keeping illegal >>> immagration for the sole purpose of keeping prices low to ensure >>> your current standard of living. That is extremely selfish of you. >> >> I advocated nothing. I described policies implicitly supported by >> your your own party. I personally think the whole situation is >> ridiculous. You true believers are being taken advantage of. The >> Republicans, like the Democrats, are sponsored by big agriculture and >> by many other large industries who are depended on this practically >> unlimited pool of cheap labor. They are absolutely not going to allow >> the source of their profits to be kicked out. > > The Democrats are supported by big banking, big oil (BP) and Goldman > Sachs. As are the Republicans. You see Bert, being a politician is expensive. Re-election campaigns cost millions of dollars. So politicians, Democrat and Republican both, are always looking for campaign contributions. In exchange for these contributions, they do favors for their contributors. It's almost like it doesn't matter which party is in power, because big banking, big oil (BP) and Goldman Sachs are happy to bribe whoever happens to be in office. So ends our discussion of the blindingly obvious. |