From: dene on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-98304B.23405105052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <84f553Fm3qU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-2DD8BA.21542905052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81mno(a)4ax.com>,
> > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > >
> > > I am.
> > >
> > > What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself?
> > >
> >
> > Because few men are islands. Getting stoned everyday has a direct
effect on
> > other people. Duh!

Children for example. Drug users spawn. You think somebody high on Meth is
a good parent. Duh!


-Greg


From: dene on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
news:37b5u5t738fd6i58c25ehq7kru78u1qpk2(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 23:20:14 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Because few men are islands. Getting stoned everyday has a direct effect
on
> >other people. Duh!
>
> As does getting drunk. Do you want a return of prohibition too?

No. I don't see any need to add more ornaments to the Christmas tree.

-Greg


From: dene on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ac09e4e5-0f23-446d-8b62-6c139ab82d1f(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
On May 6, 12:54 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81...(a)4ax.com>,

> > <clip>
> > >Laying off drugs? Not going to happen. How about legalizing the drugs?
> > >That actually would work.
>
> > Marijuana only. You can't be serious about legalizing heroin,
> > cocaine or meth.
>
> I am.
>
> What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself?
>
This is not a simple matter of what one does to oneself. Drug addicts
impose costs on society. They commit crimes to get money for drugs.
They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require
medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't
properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who
impose further costs on society.

------------------------------------------------

Bingo!

-Greg


From: Alan Baker on
In article
<ac09e4e5-0f23-446d-8b62-6c139ab82d1f(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 6, 12:54�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81...(a)4ax.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 May 2010 13:05:33 -0400, "Frank Ketchum"
> > > <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> >
> > > ><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:d873u51f2k5rtc9lsamj7esp79nqhm787a(a)4ax.com...
> > > >> On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>===========================================
> > > >>>The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are
> > > >>>illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more
> > > >>>than
> > > >>>a few what would do it.
> >
> > > >> Then why aren't they? � The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that
> > > >> they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't.
> >
> > > >> The U.S. is to blame for the Mexican dope trade too. �Guess who's
> > > >> buying it?
> >
> > > >> So if we could find American workers who wouldn't mind hard work, and
> > > >> lay off heroin products, it would go a long way in fixing both
> > > >> problems. �:-)
> >
> > > >Americans are plenty willing to work hard, they are just unwilling to
> > > >work
> > > >hard at the wage level that all of the illegals are.
> >
> > > There are plenty of them whose unemployment is about to run out. Think
> > > they'll stoop (no pun intended) to this kind of work then?
> >
> > > <clip>
> > > >Laying off drugs? �Not going to happen. �How about legalizing the drugs?
> > > >That actually would work.
> >
> > > Marijuana only. � You can't be serious about legalizing heroin,
> > > cocaine or meth.
> >
> > I am.
> >
> > What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself?
> >
> This is not a simple matter of what one does to oneself. Drug addicts
> impose costs on society. They commit crimes to get money for drugs.

They do that mostly *because* of drug prohibition. Black markets are
expensive markets.

> They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require
> medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't
> properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who
> impose further costs on society.

They're doing all that *now*.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<df176351-2919-4594-b37f-d5879968a0c0(a)r34g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 6, 2:40�am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <84f553Fm3...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >
> > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > >news:alangbaker-2DD8BA.21542905052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > > In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81...(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > �bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >
> > > > I am.
> >
> > > > What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself?
> >
> > > Because few men are islands. �Getting stoned everyday has a direct effect
> > > on
> > > other people. Duh!
> >
> > Such as?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Go back to nitpicking and leave sincere discussion to grownups.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
>
> "LOL" is a very weak rhetorical device.

And it was all that was required for the sentence it answered.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>