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From: BAR on 6 May 2010 18:48
In article <4be34111$0$4888$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> On Thu, 06 May 2010 12:49:06 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> > news:2010050612314318056-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >> But as to the Arizona law specifically...
> >> But where the Arizona law really runs into problems is where police
> >> in that state won't stop me because I "look" illegal, but they could
> >> stop Maria or Miguel, my neighbors, who are both second-generation US
> >> citizens, both born in this country to immigrant citizens of the US.
> >> That's where this law runs into serious constitutional questions.
> >> And that's why I oppose it. It places legal citizens in situations
> >> we've only read about in history books and seen in movies about the
> >> Gestapo in Germany. It's unAmerican.
> > This is wrong Randy. The law specifically states there must be lawful
> > contact BEFORE any paper checking can happen. They cannot simply pull
> > you over for looking a specific way.
> Yeah, because the police would never routinely pull visible minorities
> over like that.
Make sure you wear your seat belt and remember to carry your green card
with you at all times Carbs, its the law.
From: dene on 6 May 2010 18:55
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:26:03 -0700, dene wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-BBDD34.09552206052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >>> They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require
> >>> medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't
> >>> properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who
> >>> impose further costs on society.
> >> They're doing all that *now*.
> > And the problem would worsen if it were legal. Duh!
> You're sure of this?
I'm sure about human nature. Laws and consequences do much to temper our
Soon, Bobby Knight will be receiving a package for Bubba. He'll never let
Bubba dump on my yard again.
Laws and consequences.
From: bknight on 6 May 2010 19:09
On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to
>cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be
>shot dead on sight.
This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death
penalty, without legal recourse?
From: John B. on 6 May 2010 20:04
On May 6, 6:23 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <ac09e4e5-0f23-446d-8b62-
> 6c139ab82...(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > This is not a simple matter of what one does to oneself. Drug addicts
> > impose costs on society. They commit crimes to get money for drugs.
> > They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require
> > medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't
> > properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who
> > impose further costs on society.
> You have just described the burden that illegal aliens place upon the
> citizens of the USA.
That's ridiculous, but why would we expect anything different from you?
From: John B. on 6 May 2010 20:05
On May 6, 6:29 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <ba6a1841-8d1e-428d-9e84-
> 670803f91...(a)l28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > > Nice try but there has been too much time that has passed. You will
> > > forever be known as they guy who wants a seperate waiting room at the ER
> > > so that you don't have be offended by the smells of the masses.
> > -- Only by you.
> You must have missed Carb's description of his adventures at the ER. He
> made a point of how he was offended that he had to be in the same
> waiting room as the smelly illegal aliens.
> > > > Anyway, I think the only thing that will stop illegal immigration is for
> > > > the economy to get so bad here that it's not worth the trip to get here.
> > > > Otherwise, it's simple market forces. Labor goes where the pay is
> > > > greatest.
> > > Is that what Obama is doing. I would never have guessed that the
> > > purposeful destruction of the US economy was an effort to stop illegal
> > > immigration. Does Obama know he is working towards getting rid of a
> > > staunch Democrat voting block.
> > Earth to Bert: the economy is improving. GDP is growing, consumer
> > spending is up, manufacturing output is up, inflation is low...
> Where are the jobs? You can't have an economic recovery without jobs.
> When we return to an unemployment rate of less than 5.5% then we will
> have recovered. Until then we are fooling ourselves thinking that we are
> recovering, that is unless you willing to accept a permanent 10%
> unemployment rate.
OK, Mr. Economist.