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From: Jack Hollis on 6 May 2010 21:56 On Thu, 06 May 2010 09:56:20 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >You think that drug prohibition is preventing this? Duh! The only real possible downside to legalizing drugs is that it might encourage people who don't use drugs because they're illegal to try them. I have no doubt that there are some people who would do exactly that. Even so, we know from experience that and overwhelming majority of the people who try drugs never develop a serious drug problem. The figure changes depending on the drug, but most people who try drugs suffer no ill effects. So it's safe to assume that most of the new users would also never develop drug problems. If you think that preventing a few extra people from developing drug problems is worth all the horrors created by drugs being illegal you obviously haven't thought things through.
From: Jack Hollis on 6 May 2010 22:01 On Thu, 6 May 2010 09:49:31 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >Children for example. Drug users spawn. You think somebody high on Meth is >a good parent. Duh! > > >-Greg Probably a better parent than one that's in jail. Do you know how many children are growing up without one, or both, parents because of drug arrests. If you're worrying about the family then let all those parents go home to their kids.
From: Carbon on 6 May 2010 22:02 On Thu, 06 May 2010 15:55:59 -0700, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4be3419f$0$4888$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:26:03 -0700, dene wrote: >>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >>> news:alangbaker-BBDD34.09552206052010(a)news.shawcable.com... >>>> >>>>> They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and >>>>> require medical care they can't pay for. They have children that >>>>> they can't properly care for and those children grow up to be >>>>> screw-ups who impose further costs on society. >>>> >>>> They're doing all that *now*. >>> >>> And the problem would worsen if it were legal. Duh! >> >> You're sure of this? > > I'm sure about human nature. Laws and consequences do much to temper > our behavior. The Netherlands has an extremely liberal policy wrt drugs and all the evidence I've seen suggests that the per capita social/financial costs are much lower.
From: bknight on 6 May 2010 22:22 On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:15:09 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >news:lqi6u55nqa7kk6in6129j637l8enunpe10(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> >> >> >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to >> >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be >> >shot dead on sight. >> > >> >> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death >> penalty, without legal recourse? >> >> You're pitiful. >> >> BK > >So you don't advocate shoot on sight orders for those who enter a military >base illegally or get too close to a warship? > >If you do, what's the distinction between shoot on sight and Bert's >scenario? > >-Greg > You must be kidding. First, I'm not sure that shoot-to-kill orders are given in either of your cases. If so it would be to prevent that person from doing bodily harm. You would actually consider killing someone that is looking to find a better life for himself or his family? There is absolutely no parallel. BK
From: bknight on 6 May 2010 22:25
On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:28:42 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On May 6, 6:09�pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: >> >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to >> >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be >> >shot dead on sight. >> >> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. �The death >> penalty, without legal recourse? >> >> You're pitiful. >> >> BK > >That's about what the Mexicans do on their southern border. > >Ken That's absolutely stupid Ken. We're supposed to be above such heinous actions in our country and you want to emulate third world thinking? BK |