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From: dene on 6 May 2010 22:50 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:lst6u558516t6krh1hi33sm5lfuu5pfcto(a)4ax.com... > >If you do, what's the distinction between shoot on sight and Bert's > >scenario? > > > >-Greg > > > You must be kidding. > > First, I'm not sure that shoot-to-kill orders are given in either of > your cases. If so it would be to prevent that person from doing > bodily harm. > > You would actually consider killing someone that is looking to find a > better life for himself or his family? > > > There is absolutely no parallel. > > BK Shoot to kill is definitely the standing order at the Bangor Nuclear Sub Base. It's posted on a huge sign for all to see. Each year, warships come to Portland as part of the Rose Festival. As a Coast Guard Auxiliarist, we help enforce a security zone around those ships. If a boat of any sort strays into that zone, they are met with specially trained Coast Guard warriors who will destroy the boat and persons who head toward the ships. There are four of these craft, with warriors mounting 50 cal machine guns on their bows. So....the distinction between our sovereign borders and the security zone I described is exactly what? -Greg
From: dene on 6 May 2010 22:52 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be37181$0$18707$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Thu, 06 May 2010 18:45:19 -0700, John B. wrote: > > On May 6, 9:28 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On May 6, 6:09 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone > >>>> attempting to cross at any point other than an official US border > >>>> crossing will be shot dead on sight. > >>> > >>> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death > >>> penalty, without legal recourse? > >>> > >>> You're pitiful. > >> > >> That's about what the Mexicans do on their southern border. > > > > No it isn't, but what if it were? That would make it OK for us to do > > it, too? > > Turns out the righties here are big fans of moral relativism. Right and > wrong, good and evil are apparently totally irrelevant. Who knew? Righties want our borders honored and protected. Righties wants standing immigration laws enforced and improved upon. Righties are tired of paying for the medical bills, education, and court costs of illegal immigrants. -Greg
From: dene on 6 May 2010 22:59 "Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:5vq6u554monlntdgbsic5f9mejgtdjb2q8(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 5 May 2010 23:20:14 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > wrote: > > >"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >news:alangbaker-2DD8BA.21542905052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81mno(a)4ax.com>, > >> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> > >> I am. > >> > >> What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself? > >> > > > >Because few men are islands. Getting stoned everyday has a direct effect on > >other people. Duh! > > Lots of things that people do have direct effects on other people, but > that's no reason to put someone in jail for it. Should people be put > in jail for cheating on their spouse? What about people who neglect > their family because they watch too much TV or spend too much time > playing computer games? What about overeating to the point of > obesity? Doesn't that have direct effect on other people? People should be personally responsible for the things you mentioned. However, none of the things you describe, in of themselves, are as addictive or destructive as cocaine, heroin, or meth. Hence the laws and consequences. -Greg
From: kenpitts on 6 May 2010 22:55 On May 6, 9:25 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:28:42 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On May 6, 6:09 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >> >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to > >> >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be > >> >shot dead on sight. > > >> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death > >> penalty, without legal recourse? > > >> You're pitiful. > > >> BK > > >That's about what the Mexicans do on their southern border. > > >Ken > > That's absolutely stupid Ken. > > We're supposed to be above such heinous actions in our country and you > want to emulate third world thinking? > > BK- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I don't advocate murdering them, But they should be turned around as caught. Without exception. I want eople who are here illegally to go home. BTW, my wife and in-laws are **legal** immigrants. Ken
From: dene on 6 May 2010 23:01
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be374bc$0$18672$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Thu, 06 May 2010 15:55:59 -0700, dene wrote: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4be3419f$0$4888$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:26:03 -0700, dene wrote: > >>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >>> news:alangbaker-BBDD34.09552206052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >>>> > >>>>> They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and > >>>>> require medical care they can't pay for. They have children that > >>>>> they can't properly care for and those children grow up to be > >>>>> screw-ups who impose further costs on society. > >>>> > >>>> They're doing all that *now*. > >>> > >>> And the problem would worsen if it were legal. Duh! > >> > >> You're sure of this? > > > > I'm sure about human nature. Laws and consequences do much to temper > > our behavior. > > The Netherlands has an extremely liberal policy wrt drugs and all the > evidence I've seen suggests that the per capita social/financial costs > are much lower. I prefer a traditional, god-fearing, moral society vs a socialistic, god-less, immoral society. -Greg |