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From: Carbon on 5 May 2010 08:57 On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > >> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the >> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. >> >> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of >> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper >> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could >> be with a bio-metric ID card. > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > quarter of them should have been working at all. > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, with no benefits? From a business perspective, undocumented workers are a gift from heaven. Hard working, no expensive benefits to worry about, and they have no legal recourse if you feel like screwing them over. They're perfect. For the benefit of those who somehow haven't noticed the same cycle repeating over and over: when the Republicans are out of office the screeching about illegals rises in volume. When the Republicans get back in power the screeching suddenly stops. Why? Because agriculture, construction, et cetera are big, important industries and they would be financially devastated without undocumented workers. They spread a lot of money around in Washington to ensure that their precious cheap labor force is left alone. You have what amounts to a civil war in the Republican Party between fiscal conservatives and ideologues. Even if the ideologues managed to push their financially ill-advised policies through, very little would really change.
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 09:13 On May 4, 11:42 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > > non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > > One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > > working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > > ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > > be with a bio-metric ID card. > > > -- > > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > > - James Madison > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > quarter of them should have been working at all. > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > Ken Send them all back? Exactly how might that be accomplished?
From: MNMikeW on 5 May 2010 10:23 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: >> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >> >>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the >>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. >>> >>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of >>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper >>> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could >>> be with a bio-metric ID card. >> >> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I >> work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area >> next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a >> quarter of them should have been working at all. >> >> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the >> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 > hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, > with no benefits? > Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place.
From: Carbon on 5 May 2010 10:47 On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:23:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: >>> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the >>>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. >>>> >>>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of >>>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and >>>> cheaper ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This >>>> could be with a bio-metric ID card. >>> >>> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, >>> I work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the >>> area next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a >>> quarter of them should have been working at all. >>> >>> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the >>> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. >> >> How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work >> 12 hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum >> wage, with no benefits? > > Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place. No interfering with the free market, you socialist!
From: MNMikeW on 5 May 2010 10:50
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4be1850a$0$5035$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:23:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: >>>> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the >>>>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. >>>>> >>>>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of >>>>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and >>>>> cheaper ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This >>>>> could be with a bio-metric ID card. >>>> >>>> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, >>>> I work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the >>>> area next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a >>>> quarter of them should have been working at all. >>>> >>>> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the >>>> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. >>> >>> How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work >>> 12 hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum >>> wage, with no benefits? >> >> Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place. > > No interfering with the free market, you socialist! So we can abolish the minimum wage then? |