From: dene on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:387c4b19-c099-4bd2-9fc3-06b15ab84029(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On May 7, 1:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <84ivubF8j...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
>
>
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:pdh8u51hjtqck6u02ngmie5man0v822pv1(a)4ax.com...
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:42:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >>In article <muf8u51phqasbvjgjo7g0js016enqqu...(a)4ax.com>,
> > >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> > >>> On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:19:33 -0700, Alan Baker
<alangba...(a)telus.net>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>> >In article <nve8u51igl1c24u0frf9uq4hm6sp1eg...(a)4ax.com>,
> > >>> > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> > >>> >> I agree with Greg on this. Marijuana is one thing for which I
> > >>> >> support
> > >>> >> legalization. The hard stuff...no. If heroin or cocaine was legal
> > >>> >> there would be a ton of ordinary people trying it that would
never do
> > >>> >> so if there were legal consequences. If you think that DUI is bad
> > >>> >> with alcohol is bad........and that's just the tip of the
iceberg.
>
> > >>> >> BK
>
> > >>> >So punish people WHEN THE ACTUALLY DO HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>> So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO
> > >>> HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>"Might" is not "will".
>
> > > OK then. So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO THOUSANDS WHO WILL
> > > THEN DO HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>The most basic tenet of our society is the freedom to do what each of
us
> > >>wants to pursue happiness. It's only when our behaviour *actually*
harms
> > >>others that it is supposed to have limits imposed upon it.
>
> > > The most basic tenet of our society is keeping us safe from those who
> > > would bring harm to us. When your happiness puts me at risk it is a
> > > basic wrong. Period.
>
> > > It's insane to give such freedom when you are assured that it will, in
> > > fact, cause harm to others. Your opinion would be different if a
> > > loved one was killed by someone driving a car while high on cocaine.
> > > If not, you're certainly in the minority.
>
> > > BK
>
> > I've had two friends die from drugs. One with coke, one meth. Our
society
> > would end as we know it if these drugs were ever legalized.
>
> What complete and utter bullshit..
>
Well, gosh, that's a compelling argument.

----------------------------------------------------

I sense an LOL coming on. Is it any wonder the guy rarely makes an
argument.....just starts them.

-Greg


From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:387c4b19-c099-4bd2-9fc3-06b15ab84029(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On May 7, 1:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <84ivubF8j...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
>
>
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:pdh8u51hjtqck6u02ngmie5man0v822pv1(a)4ax.com...
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:42:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >>In article <muf8u51phqasbvjgjo7g0js016enqqu...(a)4ax.com>,
> > >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> > >>> On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:19:33 -0700, Alan Baker
> > >>> <alangba...(a)telus.net>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>> >In article <nve8u51igl1c24u0frf9uq4hm6sp1eg...(a)4ax.com>,
> > >>> > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> > >>> >> I agree with Greg on this. Marijuana is one thing for which I
> > >>> >> support
> > >>> >> legalization. The hard stuff...no. If heroin or cocaine was legal
> > >>> >> there would be a ton of ordinary people trying it that would
> > >>> >> never do
> > >>> >> so if there were legal consequences. If you think that DUI is bad
> > >>> >> with alcohol is bad........and that's just the tip of the
> > >>> >> iceberg.
>
> > >>> >> BK
>
> > >>> >So punish people WHEN THE ACTUALLY DO HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>> So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO
> > >>> HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>"Might" is not "will".
>
> > > OK then. So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO THOUSANDS WHO WILL
> > > THEN DO HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > >>The most basic tenet of our society is the freedom to do what each of
> > >>us
> > >>wants to pursue happiness. It's only when our behaviour *actually*
> > >>harms
> > >>others that it is supposed to have limits imposed upon it.
>
> > > The most basic tenet of our society is keeping us safe from those who
> > > would bring harm to us. When your happiness puts me at risk it is a
> > > basic wrong. Period.
>
> > > It's insane to give such freedom when you are assured that it will, in
> > > fact, cause harm to others. Your opinion would be different if a
> > > loved one was killed by someone driving a car while high on cocaine.
> > > If not, you're certainly in the minority.
>
> > > BK
>
> > I've had two friends die from drugs. One with coke, one meth. Our
> > society
> > would end as we know it if these drugs were ever legalized.
>
> What complete and utter bullshit..
>
Well, gosh, that's a compelling argument.

==============
Standard Baker. He obviously has never seen the consequences of these drugs.


From: BAR on
In article <gu28u5doi63n3ebjlbv3ft41ovfpbg76mh(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Fri, 7 May 2010 07:57:12 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <20a69e5b-9f5c-41b3-890a-38f9e47ef86c@
> >37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On May 6, 9:28�pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On May 6, 6:09�pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> >> > > >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to
> >> > > >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be
> >> > > >shot dead on sight.
> >> >
> >> > > This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. �The death
> >> > > penalty, without legal recourse?
> >> >
> >> > > You're pitiful.
> >> >
> >> > > BK
> >> >
> >> > That's about what the Mexicans do on their southern border.
> >> >
> >> > Ken
> >>
> >> No it isn't, but what if it were? That would make it OK for us to do
> >> it, too?
> >
> >Reciprocity? It is an interesting concept Johnny. Hell we use it within
> >the USA all of the time. How do you think your marriage in one state is
> >recognized in another state?
>
> Another inane, childish, comparison. You really ought to have your
> posts edited by a fifth grader.

I don't know why you have a problem with reciprocity other then the fact
the it doesn't fit your political objectives.

Main Entry: rec�i�proc�i�ty
Pronunciation: \?re-s?-?pr�-s(?-)te-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural rec�i�proc�i�ties
Date: 1766

1 : the quality or state of being reciprocal : mutual dependence,
action, or influence
2 : a mutual exchange of privileges; specifically : a recognition by one
of two countries or institutions of the validity of licenses or
privileges granted by the other

From: BAR on
In article <0c28u598sqi7oo217vcp02joc3b769eos4(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Fri, 7 May 2010 07:55:52 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <lqi6u55nqa7kk6in6129j637l8enunpe10(a)4ax.com>,
> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >>
> >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to
> >> >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be
> >> >shot dead on sight.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death
> >> penalty, without legal recourse?
> >>
> >> You're pitiful.
> >
> >Shallow? Who is coming across the southern border? Do you have any idea?
> >It is not just poor migrant workers.
> >
> That gives simplistic, shallow, BAR the right to kill them all.
> Benevolently, you would stop short of raping the women, unlike
> LLLLLLLarry, another fool.
>
> Once in a while you show glimmers of mediocre intelligence. This
> isn't one of those times.

Anything except addressing the issue, Bobby.





From: BAR on
In article <15e109f3-c8f4-4e85-b67e-00e442e6c3d9
@e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> The Marielitos who came here in 1980 are the most successful immigrant
> group in the U.S. They have built a highly prosperous diaspora in
>

Where's your proof?