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From: dene on 7 May 2010 15:15 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:387c4b19-c099-4bd2-9fc3-06b15ab84029(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... On May 7, 1:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article <84ivubF8j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:pdh8u51hjtqck6u02ngmie5man0v822pv1(a)4ax.com... > > > On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:42:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > wrote: > > > >>In article <muf8u51phqasbvjgjo7g0js016enqqu...(a)4ax.com>, > > >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>> On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:19:33 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> >In article <nve8u51igl1c24u0frf9uq4hm6sp1eg...(a)4ax.com>, > > >>> > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>> >> I agree with Greg on this. Marijuana is one thing for which I > > >>> >> support > > >>> >> legalization. The hard stuff...no. If heroin or cocaine was legal > > >>> >> there would be a ton of ordinary people trying it that would never do > > >>> >> so if there were legal consequences. If you think that DUI is bad > > >>> >> with alcohol is bad........and that's just the tip of the iceberg. > > > >>> >> BK > > > >>> >So punish people WHEN THE ACTUALLY DO HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>> So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO > > >>> HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>"Might" is not "will". > > > > OK then. So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO THOUSANDS WHO WILL > > > THEN DO HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>The most basic tenet of our society is the freedom to do what each of us > > >>wants to pursue happiness. It's only when our behaviour *actually* harms > > >>others that it is supposed to have limits imposed upon it. > > > > The most basic tenet of our society is keeping us safe from those who > > > would bring harm to us. When your happiness puts me at risk it is a > > > basic wrong. Period. > > > > It's insane to give such freedom when you are assured that it will, in > > > fact, cause harm to others. Your opinion would be different if a > > > loved one was killed by someone driving a car while high on cocaine. > > > If not, you're certainly in the minority. > > > > BK > > > I've had two friends die from drugs. One with coke, one meth. Our society > > would end as we know it if these drugs were ever legalized. > > What complete and utter bullshit.. > Well, gosh, that's a compelling argument. ---------------------------------------------------- I sense an LOL coming on. Is it any wonder the guy rarely makes an argument.....just starts them. -Greg
From: MNMikeW on 7 May 2010 15:59 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:387c4b19-c099-4bd2-9fc3-06b15ab84029(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... On May 7, 1:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article <84ivubF8j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:pdh8u51hjtqck6u02ngmie5man0v822pv1(a)4ax.com... > > > On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:42:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > wrote: > > > >>In article <muf8u51phqasbvjgjo7g0js016enqqu...(a)4ax.com>, > > >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>> On Fri, 07 May 2010 09:19:33 -0700, Alan Baker > > >>> <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> >In article <nve8u51igl1c24u0frf9uq4hm6sp1eg...(a)4ax.com>, > > >>> > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>> >> I agree with Greg on this. Marijuana is one thing for which I > > >>> >> support > > >>> >> legalization. The hard stuff...no. If heroin or cocaine was legal > > >>> >> there would be a ton of ordinary people trying it that would > > >>> >> never do > > >>> >> so if there were legal consequences. If you think that DUI is bad > > >>> >> with alcohol is bad........and that's just the tip of the > > >>> >> iceberg. > > > >>> >> BK > > > >>> >So punish people WHEN THE ACTUALLY DO HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>> So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO > > >>> HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>"Might" is not "will". > > > > OK then. So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO THOUSANDS WHO WILL > > > THEN DO HARM TO OTHERS. > > > >>The most basic tenet of our society is the freedom to do what each of > > >>us > > >>wants to pursue happiness. It's only when our behaviour *actually* > > >>harms > > >>others that it is supposed to have limits imposed upon it. > > > > The most basic tenet of our society is keeping us safe from those who > > > would bring harm to us. When your happiness puts me at risk it is a > > > basic wrong. Period. > > > > It's insane to give such freedom when you are assured that it will, in > > > fact, cause harm to others. Your opinion would be different if a > > > loved one was killed by someone driving a car while high on cocaine. > > > If not, you're certainly in the minority. > > > > BK > > > I've had two friends die from drugs. One with coke, one meth. Our > > society > > would end as we know it if these drugs were ever legalized. > > What complete and utter bullshit.. > Well, gosh, that's a compelling argument. ============== Standard Baker. He obviously has never seen the consequences of these drugs.
From: BAR on 7 May 2010 17:28 In article <gu28u5doi63n3ebjlbv3ft41ovfpbg76mh(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Fri, 7 May 2010 07:57:12 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <20a69e5b-9f5c-41b3-890a-38f9e47ef86c@ > >37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > >> > >> On May 6, 9:28�pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On May 6, 6:09�pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > > >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to > >> > > >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be > >> > > >shot dead on sight. > >> > > >> > > This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. �The death > >> > > penalty, without legal recourse? > >> > > >> > > You're pitiful. > >> > > >> > > BK > >> > > >> > That's about what the Mexicans do on their southern border. > >> > > >> > Ken > >> > >> No it isn't, but what if it were? That would make it OK for us to do > >> it, too? > > > >Reciprocity? It is an interesting concept Johnny. Hell we use it within > >the USA all of the time. How do you think your marriage in one state is > >recognized in another state? > > Another inane, childish, comparison. You really ought to have your > posts edited by a fifth grader. I don't know why you have a problem with reciprocity other then the fact the it doesn't fit your political objectives. Main Entry: rec�i�proc�i�ty Pronunciation: \?re-s?-?pr�-s(?-)te-\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural rec�i�proc�i�ties Date: 1766 1 : the quality or state of being reciprocal : mutual dependence, action, or influence 2 : a mutual exchange of privileges; specifically : a recognition by one of two countries or institutions of the validity of licenses or privileges granted by the other
From: BAR on 7 May 2010 17:29 In article <0c28u598sqi7oo217vcp02joc3b769eos4(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Fri, 7 May 2010 07:55:52 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <lqi6u55nqa7kk6in6129j637l8enunpe10(a)4ax.com>, > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> > >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:44:47 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >I would use the US military to secure our borders. Anyone attempting to > >> >cross at any point other than an official US border crossing will be > >> >shot dead on sight. > >> > > >> > >> This kind of shallow thought is to be expected of you. The death > >> penalty, without legal recourse? > >> > >> You're pitiful. > > > >Shallow? Who is coming across the southern border? Do you have any idea? > >It is not just poor migrant workers. > > > That gives simplistic, shallow, BAR the right to kill them all. > Benevolently, you would stop short of raping the women, unlike > LLLLLLLarry, another fool. > > Once in a while you show glimmers of mediocre intelligence. This > isn't one of those times. Anything except addressing the issue, Bobby.
From: BAR on 7 May 2010 17:31
In article <15e109f3-c8f4-4e85-b67e-00e442e6c3d9 @e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > The Marielitos who came here in 1980 are the most successful immigrant > group in the U.S. They have built a highly prosperous diaspora in > Where's your proof? |